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October 5, 2024 03:41:38  #1


hidden sails wip thread

So I figured I should start up a wip thread for hidden sails to show that there's actual progress going on! I figured this section was decent enough.


Time
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October 5, 2024 03:45:35  #2


Re: hidden sails wip thread

expect updates here and there! naturally there will be spoilers attached so peruse at your own risk. I'm wondering if I should filter it to lighter spoilers, or if I should just give a heads up on how big a spoiler something is from post to post.

Last edited by Time (October 5, 2024 03:46:17)


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October 5, 2024 13:58:37  #3


Re: hidden sails wip thread

I suppose I should  put something up here to start it off. I'm not too sure how formatted I want this to be, but here is only character who I know has a character arc and design that I am satisfied with.

This is Calista, the deuteragonist. Calista isn't her actual name, but rather a temporary placeholder name for me.

I find her arc and premise to be very interesting, but you will be getting none of it for now. It was definitely interesting enough for me to consider placing her as lead protagonist, but I am pretty sure she fits best as deuteragonist. The reason why because I feel the current main protagonist has a much more interesting arc. That, and I feel much like the events of Hidden Sails is a very strong springboard for her character type and the relations that she will have other characters (namely the main protagonist).

Also, I feel that her story is told from an external PoV that being the protagonist's PoV. It may be best that we see it externally, so we do not know what she is thinking. That, and I feel the current protagonist's actions may require some internal dialogue here and there to get a better sense of understanding of what he does at specific points. But we'll see.


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October 5, 2024 14:21:31  #4


Re: hidden sails wip thread

While I have much of the character ideas, not all of them are exact. Eventually when I have more structure established. I'll post some of her character pillars later


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October 16, 2024 16:31:52  #5


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Kinda late to post a reaction to this so just 👀👀👀


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October 16, 2024 20:31:48  #6


Re: hidden sails wip thread

indeed, hopefully I have more to show soon!

Side note, peak pfp you've chosen, btw. (when specter eventually changes it, it's a fanart image of Blind Obsession Ishmael)


Time
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October 17, 2024 18:07:15  #7


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You can't just call anything related to Ishmael peak, can you, Time?

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October 17, 2024 20:48:37  #8


Re: hidden sails wip thread

no, its just kinda peak 🥶


Time
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December 7, 2024 00:37:23  #9


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Time, one spoiler or hint at any sort of lore and my life is yours 🙏


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"If you are born weak, which god do you turn to for solace?"
"That's why... I had to become the
lone star
in the sky to guide them..."˙˚∘⊹☀️⊹∘˚˙

"I shall ascend to the heavens, becoming the scorching
sun...
Bathed in my light, my people shall flourish, while all evil shall be eradicated."

"I now permit you to stare into the sun."
 

December 7, 2024 18:12:48  #10


Re: hidden sails wip thread

stop don't remind me that the last time I posted here was 3 months ago 😭

I'll be real I'm currently working on a ttrpg character's lore. I've been stuck on him for a few weeks, but I should be wrapping up soon and free to circle back to Hidden Sails. Plus winter break plus me making it a habit to write every day


Time
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December 7, 2024 18:15:44  #11


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Awawawawawawa


✨️Echo✨️
he/him xe/xem

"If you are born weak, which god do you turn to for solace?"
"That's why... I had to become the
lone star
in the sky to guide them..."˙˚∘⊹☀️⊹∘˚˙

"I shall ascend to the heavens, becoming the scorching
sun...
Bathed in my light, my people shall flourish, while all evil shall be eradicated."

"I now permit you to stare into the sun."
 

December 8, 2024 00:37:53  #12


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Don't awawawa me bruh


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December 11, 2024 15:25:57  #13


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Ok, for like I think maybe 80% or so I'm done with the big chunk of writing character ttrpg things. I don't think I'll ever stop writing stuff for my ttrpg table, but usually whenever a I have to develop character lore it takes a lot more focus and time. Yk? For like right now as an example, I'll be probably writing up a thought experiment for fun concerning the actions that we must take this upcoming session. Mostly just for me but also to consider multiple arguments concerning the dubious morality that will happen.

Anyways, this is a hidden sails update thread, isn't it?

After a long ass while of writing other stuff, I've arrived back to hidden sails. I'll admit, I was lazy, and I wanted to cut some corners in developing the premise/ a moral choice. The truth is I need to think on it even more. Now, you may think I do a lot of thinking, but the truth is I really don't lol.

A while back I arrived at a moral choice/moral argument that I thought would suffice for The Hidden Sails, but as I've consumed some more content, I realized that it failed to do so. Not because it was a faulty argument or lackluster, but because it wasn't me. I currently am in the mindset of needing to find a moral argument that truly touches my soul. Or smth like that. That sounds cringe as hell, so let me restate it.

I need to find a moral argument that I truly believe.

I want to go think deeper on the exploration of humanity. And present an argument that really resonates with me. Something beyond the "Oh btw you should never ever give up" because that's very generic and unspecified. Maybe the moral argument that I am looking for is a more detailed version of "never give up" maybe it's something completely different. Nevertheless, we will have to see what it is.


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December 11, 2024 15:45:00  #14


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Just as importantly, I believe I should look into crafting the antagonist's moral argument. That is something I may have to dig deep into that I just realized.

It can't be an argument that is easy to disprove, like, "Oh btw everything is all worthless and you should give up"

A moral argument requires a decision to make. I don't think if I placed such a hopeless argument against the hero's argument, it would ever give a tough decision to make, not to mention it wouldn't even put up a good fight or add much nuance.

so, I believe I need to create 2 moral arguments, however, one must be "stronger" to to just overcome the other.

Much of (good) stories is really just a battle between differing moral arguments after all. I remember hearing from one of the philosophy club board members that really a good way to start in philosophy or pick it up is legit just reading fiction. Many stories have such philosophies intertwined anyways. Idk why it took me so long to realize while it was clearly in my face, but this will be my next goal for the inter break. I'll have to ponder on this.


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Yesterday 19:08:31  #15


Re: hidden sails wip thread

owooooooo


✨️Echo✨️
he/him xe/xem

"If you are born weak, which god do you turn to for solace?"
"That's why... I had to become the
lone star
in the sky to guide them..."˙˚∘⊹☀️⊹∘˚˙

"I shall ascend to the heavens, becoming the scorching
sun...
Bathed in my light, my people shall flourish, while all evil shall be eradicated."

"I now permit you to stare into the sun."
 

Yesterday 19:17:43  #16


Re: hidden sails wip thread

oh my GAH i'm so pissed (for no good reason)

I was just scrolling through my feed and I got the EXACT question that I have been asking myself to help develop hidden sails

and a whole like, argument/answer built upon it

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ok I think I'm not pissed. It's more like possessed by a need to get a move on. Motivation? Excitement?

The truth of the matter is irl I have a friend that I feel like I can speak the most philosophical and interesting of questions to. We don't talk often, but when we do, it's like 5+ hours of just introspective thoughts verbalized.

I hope to talk to him in order to help develop the overarching themes of Hidden Sails or really just the stories I wish to tell in general. The questions are very like, "the essence of humanity" focused or whatever and I feel he's the only person I can talk to that will understand what I'm trying to get at.

The only thing is

He's sick 💀


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Yesterday 20:15:41  #17


Re: hidden sails wip thread

Time wrote:

oh my GAH i'm so pissed (for no good reason)

 
Me when I'm pissed (for no good reason)


Anyway, RIP hope your friend heals soon so we can get content (also heals soon because being sick is Not Good)


✨️Echo✨️
he/him xe/xem

"If you are born weak, which god do you turn to for solace?"
"That's why... I had to become the
lone star
in the sky to guide them..."˙˚∘⊹☀️⊹∘˚˙

"I shall ascend to the heavens, becoming the scorching
sun...
Bathed in my light, my people shall flourish, while all evil shall be eradicated."

"I now permit you to stare into the sun."
 

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