Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 23, 2022 02:52:42 |
Yeah I think in addition would be the way to go.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 20, 2022 13:03:44 |
Yes, I think it’s definitely best to wait for some more input from other parties.
That said, I don’t think it irrelevises (is that a word?) past plots. It doesn’t really affect a deity’s domain (as in, realm, house, residence whatever) as that would still be there unless it was dependent on their power or something. Also, for Eterna, the connection to predecessors does tie-in somewhat loosely with one of her spheres (souls) but it was initially created by Ihmeidrek (using her power, admittedly). It hasn’t been done, I suppose, because no one thought to try, or didn’t have the means to create such an effect.
Oh and as a side note, Force healing was the least of the sequel’s problems, whole thing was a shambles resulting from Disney trying to uncreatively milk more money from the Star Wars cash cow. I can see the comparison you’re making, though.
Could others share their thoughts on this issue please?
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 20, 2022 10:50:09 |
Galaxian- Thanks for the detailed analysis, as not only does this better fill me in on a lot of the plot I missed, but also allows me to work the weakest aspects of the concept.
I think part of the ultility of the Piece is not just the fact it contains a huge amount of raw power, but that the power is completely ‘blank’ and not restricted to any particular aspect like most deities’ magic The Piece is this enormous well of blank, impressionable matter that could be shaped into anything and/or used in any way.
Although I know there are deities of magic already who don’t have these limitations, the thing to think is that whereas that is the power of a single deity, the Piece contanins that of many, possibly hundreds, of long-gone deities. For example, a deity of magic could be severely limited by someone with nullification abilities (such as Nox), and would not have much influence in the sphere of space for example, and would be limited by what spells they know/can cast and their effects. The Piece’s matter/magic would not be limited by this.
I don’t want to speculate on exactly how it could be used to prevent the Mortem Doors from being opened, because they are Xenon’s and frankly I don’t know the ins and outs of how they work etc. But, for example, the Piece could be used to seal/limit the powers of a CD or Deity. Or prevent travel from other realms (see: realm of the dead) in the way it does for The Arena. Potentially, it could even be used to create an army of the deities/CDs own.
I’m really struggling to put what I have in my mind to ‘paper’ (hopefully you know what I mean), and this might not change the situation particularly much, but I hoped it has clarified the situation somewhat.
If it hasn’t helped another function will have to be discussed that would make it worthwhile for the deities to contest.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 19, 2022 14:25:49 |
Thanks Time!
Galaxian- The incentive is the power of the relic. Think magical superbattery. There’s a huge amount of power that either party could tap into, and although it’s not the easiest to use, the rewards would be huge once they work out how to use it. It’s also highly unlikely deities outside the realm would know about it, and they would have no way of influencing events or attaining the relic from outside The Arena. Also, it’s an incredibly bad idea to just let Nox mess around with it unregulated.
Axel- As much as I like your thinking, there are several reasons why I don’t think that’d work. Firstly, I have a rough idea of how I’d like the plot to progress, and that potentially involves the artifact getting shattered or lost at some point in the aftermath of a battle, and each party competing to find as much of the artifact as possible before the other, possibly with skirmishes here and there. Secondly, I feel that is very straightforward and wouldn’t make for a particularly long or interesting plot, no offense. Lastly the CDs already have quite a significant advantage already, and getting their hands on both the relic and Ark (who as I understand it is a pretty powerful deity) would mean they would simply wipe out the uncorrupted deities with little to no resistance.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 18, 2022 16:12:02 |
Also another note before I go- if Ihmeidrek’s Piece were removed from The Arena, Deities would be able to enter/leave as normal.
Late but thanks Specter. Have a nice day/night y’all.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 18, 2022 15:46:50 |
Got some juicy lorebuilding for y’all.
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In the Arena, dimesional travel is completely disabled. Deities can only enter via Ihmeidrek’s Piece. Eterna is exempt. Once deities leave, they cannot return without the help of Ihmedrek’s Piece.
At the beginning of the plot, Nox is in possession of Ihmeidrek’s Piece. She is hiding out within the bounds of The Arena, and using the Piece to summon deities to the domain. Ihmeidrek proposed the creation of the Piece to collect the magic/matter of perished deities. This is what gives The Arena such strong magic, and what protects it from intruders/nullifies Dimensional travel. It also prevents The Arena from destabilising.
Though deities cannot ‘die’ in the traditional sense, in some rare cases, they can ‘destabilise’. This means their matter, everything that makes up their being, can start to drift apart, or split at the seams. This eventually means they cease to exist. There are a few factors that can accumulate and cause this, but it is unknown how or why this happens.
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Notes:
Ihmeidrek’s Piece
Artifact that contains and collects the accumulated power of perished deities. Plain, palm-sized pyramid. Hieroglyphs appear when active.
Sanur
A race of semi-feline humanoids endemic to the Arena. Few in number, but wield powerful, ancient magic.
Unnamed Sanur
Demigoddess of storms, current Priestess of Eterna. Female. Quadrupedal.
Ihmeidrek
First Priestess of Eterna. Male. Bipedal. Creator of Ihmeidrek’s Piece.
The Arena
Setting. Eterna’s Domain.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 17, 2022 14:52:37 |
Also couple more notes. It’s not really Nox’s domain. but I guess she could take it as her domain temporarily? The artifact thing would also explain Nox's disappearance- she could have been looking for it.
I can’t actually stay for long tonight so I’m just gonna dump this and leave lol. I’ll check it tommorow evening or maybe in the morning if I’m not super groggy.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 17, 2022 14:46:30 |
Alright so that was one heck of a lot to read through but I’ll (try?) and address some of the stuff in order.
Firstly, as far as Nox is concerned, she is effectively drawing power from Eternal (who commands strong soul magic, potentially enough to bind deities to the location, if we do decide to go down that route) and mixing it with her own to augement the effects, as her powers are mostly focused on the redirection/nullification of magical energy.
I think a lot of the points Time suggested are worth looking into further- I like the idea that there is some artifact of immense power in said dimension, and that potentially instead of being trapped in the conventional sense there is instead sme kind of strong discouragement for leaving, and of course the incentive to find the power artifact. I think it could possibly even be the combined power of numerous artifacts (this reminds me of infinity stones lmao) or the artifact is fragmented somehow, to make it a little harder than simply grabbing said artifact and running off.
I think like Time said it would be interesting for the uncorrupted deities to be outnumbered for a change, though there would have to be some kind of advantage to prevent the uncorrupted deities from just getting pummeled.
I would like to mention that there is a species/race endemic to the dimension that would lean much more into the ‘good’ side. Although they are mortal I did plan to make a demigod of the race, however, I don’t think that one demigod is going to help a great deal tbh. Said species are called the Sanur for reference, and I will submit a form for them soon. There aren’t tons of Sanur about, they are a fairly small species.
Nox certainly doesn’t have any problems with killing mortals but she doesn’t really go out of her way to do so. I don’t think the proxy idea quite sits right to be honest, but others may disagree.
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Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 15:46:03 |
Thanks. Hope you and Galaxian enjoy the rest of your day.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 15:41:57 |
There’s still a bit of an ongiong discussion as to whether they’re actually trapped there or whether there should be a different motive.
A very good point- I was thinking about what Galaxian said about impact of the deities getting whisked off, but hadn’t considered that. Yes, I think in hindisght that was a poor idea.
Tbh I have to go now anyway due to it being late in my timezone but I’ll come up with a few more ideas soon and bring them back here. Im sure between you, Galaxian. and I, we can come up with a more plausible idea.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 15:31:32 |
Fine by me- just wanted to double check as my memory is abyssmal and I honestly wasn’t sure if I was just remembering wrong. Thanks for clarifying
I mean, it all depends on whether people want to include their CDs as well. I did think however, that so many of the deities in one place could cause some issues with forengard (i.e. issues with reality like gravity not working in some places, random objects and mortals appearing and disappearing, etc.), and deities having to work out how to fix it. That could definitely be an incentive for them to stay and try to find something in the dimension to fix that.
Galleries/Collections » [insert art here]: xenon's gallery » May 16, 2022 15:19:16 |
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Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 15:17:26 |
Thanks! I’ve been digging through some of the old pages and threads to get a reminder of the plot.
Thanks. I’m definitely interested in those ideas (I haven’t come up with any I’m happy with yet)
CDs are involved partly because Nox is one, and also because of the implications Galaxian mentioned of a good proportion of Forengard’s active deities disappearing to another dimension. Also wanted to clarify whether Nox ‘creating/causing’ the CDs ever actually became canon, or whether it was just discussed.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 14:58:06 |
Well isn’t that a mood. I too, am remarkably good at messing things up lmao
I’ll certainly ask Time, Chan and Spec. I think the main one is definitely Xenon though as the CD plot was theirs.
Homethreads » the periodical v3.5: xenon's homethread » May 16, 2022 14:53:17 |
Oh yeah sorry I was totally idle for a bit. Yeah, thanks Xenon! Appreciate it. And good to see you back.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 14:25:01 |
I think that would work out quite well, as while the other characters are mucking around in the arena, Galaxian would able to maintain the order of rest of Forengard, at least for a while. There’s nothing stopping you from entering different characters if you wanted to still have some involvement anyway.
I’ve reached out to Xenon, who else was most closely involved with the CDs plot? You’re definitely right about their input being needed. Is discord or boardhost better for you? Xenon doesn’t have a preference.
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 16, 2022 04:37:24 |
No worries Galaxian!
I appreciate you taking the time to give all that feedback. I think the point you made about there being a secondary motive to remain in the dimension is especially interesting, and even if that isn’t used, I think you’re right about the need to reinforce the plot more than simply binding deities.
As for whether GGaD Galaxian participates that is entirely up to you. I understand that his powers etc. could cause quite a few difficulties as you explained, and once the backbone of the plot is more established I’d be more than happy to make a discussion thread to try and work out some of the ins and outs of that, but I also don’t want to pressure you into joining too much if you don’t feel it fits with the character etc.
I would like to address the reference you made to Nox potentially being in league with the CDs, as this is actually the case. Although I haven’t yet found the exact place it was discussed (a long time ago, before I left the forums I think) there was an (agreement?) where I asked if she could have been the one to create the CDs in the first place. Don’t hold me to this too much, as my memory is somewhat hazy and not concrete until I can find said thread.
I thought that maybe the appearance/creation of the CDs generated like, a heck of a lot of energy, especially with all the chaos and stuff they caused. I think it might help if Nox also tapped into that in order to strengthen the ability to bind the deities in that way, as although the energy from one (and a half?) deities probbably wouldn’t be enough to hold that many deities there, the energy from the CDs might.
This is only one idea and really I need to sit down and flesh out the concept a bit more, but I will be exploring some of the points you made further and see if they resolve the fundamental plot issues.
If I forgot to address any of the other points you made feel free to reiterate them. Sorry if I did miss any.
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Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 15, 2022 04:56:31 |
Great! And thanks : )
Reports, Ideas, & Invites » Plot Arc/Concept » May 15, 2022 04:42:39 |
Alright firstly hi y’all, nice to be here again after such a long hiatus. Hope everyone is well. This was initially posted on discord however due to suggestions from Galaxian and Time I’m posting it here in the hope of it reaching more people.
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Eternal is currently bound to a location. It’s kind of like a pocket dimension but with some differences. Said setting is an arena (large-scale colluseum style) surrounded by a bit of desert that loops back into itself (if you kept walking you’d just end up on the other side of the arena) there are small living/rest quarters, lots of space for spectators etc.
Beings, mostly deities are bound to the arena to fight (not always to the death) and Eternal amongst others is trying to find a way out. Effectively, Nox is using part of Eternal’s magic mixed with some of her own power to bind the beings there. People come to spectate regularly but people who haven’t been or been invited don’t know, it’s not talked about? something along those lines.
I was thinking that other deities may also get temporarily ‘bound’ and also fight, try to find a way out etc. Thought it would make for some interesting interactions and combat between deities as well as some plot material. Obviously this really depends on people’s views on it and whether they’d want to take part with their characters.
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Galxian pointed out that this may not work with deities that can traverse through dimensions, however, since Nox’s magic mostly revolves around cancelling out/nullifying other deities abilities, I think this could be worked out. Galaxian also pointed out that this sounds somewhat more like an AU, but considering how relevant it is to my character’s lore, I would like to keep it within the main rp.
Interested to know what people think and whether they would include their characters?
GGaD Signup » RP Intro, Forms, & Approval [GGaD] » May 15, 2022 04:35:59 |
Thanks Time. I’ll make a post for the plot stuff now!
GGaD Signup » RP Intro, Forms, & Approval [GGaD] » May 14, 2022 16:20:40 |
Name: Eternal
Gender: Female
Pronouns: She/Her/They/Them
Sexuality: Bi
Deity of (Up to 3 things): Souls, Vengeance and the Moon
Powers/Abilities: Powerful soul magic, summon weapons, psychometry, celestial manipulation, healing, concealment
Appearance(s): Lion-footed (from knee downwards), ibis winged goddess. Stands around 5’10”, lithe athletic build, pale skin. Brown, curly, collar-bone length hair and piercing silver eyes. Outfit varies, generally monochrome or netural colours with silver ornaments.
Magic generally appears violet.
Personality: A whip-smart goddess. Though she tries her best to be tolerant, she has a vicious temper and penchant for combat. Can come across as quite confrontational to some, which sometimes gets her into trouble.
*Typically Worshiped By: Species that I have yet to make a form for
Domain: As yet unnamed
*Temples: N/A
Weapons: Most often some sort of bladed spear/staff, among myriad others
Backstory: Has been a deity for an unknown amount of time (couple thousand years at very least), bound to domain. Will be elaborated further as soon as I can gather aspects into a cohesive idea
Other: Ammit.
Would also like to make poeple aware of a few minor tweaks to Ephemeris. She’ll go back to being known as Nox, will be goddess of magic and the stars rather than war, love and the stars, and will have shorter black hair. Don’t think they’re big enough changes to warrant another form.
GGaD Signup » RP Intro, Forms, & Approval [GGaD] » December 12, 2021 17:40:42 |
General Kenobi!
Haha thank you. I might have a look at getting her page up on the wiki even though barely anyone uses it
GGaD Signup » RP Intro, Forms, & Approval [GGaD] » December 12, 2021 17:23:44 |
Well I haven’t been on here in a long time but uh behold! I have travelled through hyperspace to submit a form
Name: Ephemeris
Gender: Female
Pronouns: she/her
Sexuality: asexual biromantic
Deity of (Up to 3 things): war, love and the stars
Powers/Abilities: ephemeris can cancel out most magic, even potent deity magic, using a kind of invisible magical ‘shield’ conjured by gesture, but has a limit to how much/how long she can endure, and this would have no effect if she was blindsided/hit directly.
her immortality as a deity is unusual in that she can be killed like a mortal, but reincarnates each time (still retaining her deityship over war, love and the stars) in a different form. she doesn’t automatically retain all memories but can recall some.
another notable ability is her (intermittent) ability to sense something immediately before it happens, eg. sensing someone about to throw a rock at her with just enough time to step aside. again, she has no control of this ability, and it’s somewhat unreliable.
she’s a highly competent fighter, as much in hand-to-hand combat if it comes to it as she is with magical combat. as well as cancelling magic via gesture, she’s also able to deflect the energy from magic elsewhere as a wave of energy. though this does little against weaker opponents, it can be very potent when used against powerful magic from deities or the like. the main downside is that it requires keen concentration and much more effort than just absorbing the magic with a barrier.
Appearance(s): a tall, lithe deity of firm stature and a slender, almost athletic build. her eyes are somewhat rounded, downturned and lidded with striking indigo irises. she is generally seen with a little black winged liner, but otherwise wears no makeup. in certain circumstances her irises glow as a result of her abilities, and she has no control over this. chocolate brown hair with platinum highlights descends to her collarbone, and she occasionally add
Archived » (@Galaxian) Coffee! Someone’s at their local café... » April 19, 2021 07:00:36 |
Ravus took one last sip from his own mug then pushed it to one side and stood up. “You good to go? I’ll show you to that cathedral before I leave. I’m guessing you can do whatever stuff you need to do there on your own.”
Homethreads » The Pequod- Ishmael's Homethread » April 16, 2021 09:57:25 |
Ooh gl on the FR eggs 👀! Also being organised what’s that
Archived » (@Galaxian) Coffee! Someone’s at their local café... » April 16, 2021 09:44:27 |
Ravus nodded in acknowledgement then went quiet for a bit, sipping his coffee occassionally. If one looked closely at his body language (not that it was likely anyone was) he seemed nervous- unusually so, and for once it wasn’t Kiaane or the others in the café that were causing this.
(I may or may not be squeezing in a passing reference for an upcoming plot point XD not that it makes any difference)
Archived » (@Galaxian) Coffee! Someone’s at their local café... » April 16, 2021 00:52:09 |
(Oh dear... hopefully not! I was thinking having to work out he has to buy a ticket and not just walk on XD)
Thankfully, Ravus didn’t seem to notice Kiaane’s staring even when he looked back up again. “Oh, yeah. Hopefully it’s still hot.” He said, sipping his own coffee. “Don’t worry too much though. We can always get one to go.”
Archived » (@Galaxian) Coffee! Someone’s at their local café... » April 14, 2021 14:34:12 |
Ravus sighed, looking deflated. “Ah.. There’s one in the next city over, though. To one of the magic deities.” He muttered a a faint “excuse me” before taking a smartphone out of one of his pockets and swiping it. After a couple of minutes, he shoved it back and looked up at Kiaane. “Actually, I think there’s something I need to do there too. I gather you’re not too familiar with the area, so I can show you where it is if you want, as long as you’re happy to wait a few minutes when we’re there so I can check something.”
(Hehe... incoming shenanegans involving Kiaane and a bus maybe? Doesn’t strike me as someone who uses a bus on a regular basis, plus two socially awkward characters + crowded space is usually a funny combination)
Archived » (@Galaxian) Coffee! Someone’s at their local café... » April 13, 2021 03:18:31 |
(Ah, I can see why you thought that. Thanks for not ‘bothering about it though, my bad. Was meant to just be a week or a couple of days. I’ve put it down to burning that bridge when it comes)
“Oh... right?” Ravus seemed questioning, in a way. Why? Who knows. “Uh, I’m not really sure anyone goes there anymore. Whatever deity it once belonged to is long gone. I don’t know.”
Archived » (@Galaxian) Coffee! Someone’s at their local café... » April 12, 2021 05:50:14 |
(Ah, yikes, sorry, I didn't see this. If I do it again just DM me on discord to give me a figurative nudge if possible)
Ravus sighs. "There's a cathedral here, but it's in a pretty bad state. Lies on the outskirts." He seems thoughtful for a moment, then adds: "Hey, uh, what made you ask that? There's a lot of cities with cathedrals. Almost all of them in fact."