GGaD » Cosmic Dim. (V. XVIII), You're Correct but You're Not Right

GalaxianExplosion · November 19, 2024 17:38:38

This time it was 500 health after I got him to 24.

yeah.
Do you maybe see why I am willing to replicate the definition of insanity for Arknights but not for this game??

Also hey Limbus, I'd literally never come across this enemy before Mirror Dungeon. Why are the logs classified huh, do you think that's maybe a bit unfair
Btw I get the principles of how to defeat him (Stagger ASAP, break the shield before the first To Claim Their Bones so you don't get your entire team K.O.ed, win clashes so his Sanity goes up and he doesn't gain more Growing Resentment...I haven't figured out how best to go against the counter system but I digress, don't use Sinking skills 'cause that helps him), but the thing is, W Corp Don Quixote refuses to get the Rip Space skill when I need it. So she just keeps on gaining charge, and the good thing is that she has good rolls so she rarely loses clashes, but yeah. Getting that Rip Space near the end in pretty much every fight would've solved the entire "he keeps regening health because he rolls 30s on coin rolls while we can't dole enough damage to just pwn him before he can strike with his 1 speed", especially seeing as I carefully manage her charge count to make sure she has enough "ammo" (so to speak) to use

You see, the thing about starting Limbus and Arknights is that Limbus Company's flaws get put out in the spotlight even compared to Arknights. What are mechanics tutorials? Who knows. I am still in EXP hell for these few characters when in Arknights I have like 150 of them and more of the characters levelled than I probably should have, and btw yes Arknights also struggled with the EXP requirements at first, but the events helped a lot with that. Limbus' rewards for the season pass thing make like. a dent. in EXP levelling requirements. Oh yeah, I could just farm for those, right? But those need Enkephalin. Module supplements? What are those? I get 2 of them like once every blue moon lol. This boss you've never seen before? Yeah read the cards and stuff ig. Get rekt. Arknights gets criticized for vague numbers on boss descriptions and stuff, but at least there are boss descriptions after going in one time, for all the phases. I still don't know what is needed to update the logs in Limbus lol, sometimes they show up and sometimes they don't. Oh btw a problem in this Mirror Dungeon fight is that you can't really switch your team now, and I went into this chapter not knowing who the enemies were 'cause all the chapter choices were from the future (I think). So with your boss fight it really is just trying the same team. For Arknights Chapter 14 Adverse, I joked about insanity, but actually I was making some team adjustments along the way to meet the DPS check, so it really wasn't actual insanity. This is actual insanity, though. Trying the same thing over and over again.

Also both games struggle with "mid" story (and I put quotations on terms like those because tbh I don't like using terms like "mid" or "peak" personally) at the start, and I'm guessing both improve even more after the current points, but I have a bias for Arknights' story 'cause I like the exploration of ideals, discrimination, humanity, etc., meanwhile for Limbus I watch with the engagement you have when you watch wacky coworkers do goofy things. Which ig is more or less canonical.

Am I losing it? Well yes, but actually no. Contrary to what I might seem like making this post, I am quite sane actually. Frustrated though probably lol

Oh btw the gacha rates in Limbus don't mean crap to me. I get better luck in Arknights and many more rolls too compared to Limbus. Plus rate-up is always a lie for me outside of F/GO, generally speaking. So yeah.
I got Degenbrecher yesterday (as well as Warmy, before her), which just tells me that if Logos were a Guard I'd get him in the first multi

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Yesterday 01:59:36

Trying to figure out if I should do YOLO pulls to try to get Mlynar or if I should save to 18 Originite Prime to get Ebenholz's skin. It wouldn't be difficult, I just need to keep doing Main Story and probably some Side Story stuff. Idk when it expires, but it shouldn't be too hard if I have a bit of time.
I think I've mentioned before that I don't care too much about skins, 'cause it's not like I can't stare at the art like I have a problem without buying them. But if it symbolizes character development... HMMM... (I can't tell if this is like alternate reality angst or actual character development symbolism, 'cause I don't understand Arknights skin lore)
Also these things are heckin' expensive. 18 Originite Prime is about 5.4 pulls. This might not feel like a lot, but it's half a multi, and if you were to go after skins for a lot of characters, it'd show pretty fast.
Rn the only skin I've felt like buying is Bassline's, coming up in like 5 months or so. He's smiling in it and I just kinda have to (also star theme and the fact it's a roleplay...like seriously I have existential obligation)

Shoutout to Astesia for making one of my strats work btw, and Kirara for being cool (I think I might like Ambushers once I get the hang of using them). Getting better at the E2+ recommended levels, probably 'cause I now have a few E2s. Usually I just bring like 2 of them though. Probably shows that I have more promoting to do in the future (I love Greythroat and Zuo Le)

I am talking so much about Arknights because I put myself under extreme moral/mental duress with writing lol ~~hey at least we writing. Right? ahaha~~

-Galaxian-

Time · Yesterday 12:08:50

GalaxianExplosion wrote:
This time it was 500 health after I got him to 24.

yeah.
Do you maybe see why I am willing to replicate the definition of insanity for Arknights but not for this game??

Also hey Limbus, I'd literally never come across this enemy before Mirror Dungeon. Why are the logs classified huh, do you think that's maybe a bit unfair
Btw I get the principles of how to defeat him (Stagger ASAP, break the shield before the first To Claim Their Bones so you don't get your entire team K.O.ed, win clashes so his Sanity goes up and he doesn't gain more Growing Resentment...I haven't figured out how best to go against the counter system but I digress, don't use Sinking skills 'cause that helps him), but the thing is, W Corp Don Quixote refuses to get the Rip Space skill when I need it. So she just keeps on gaining charge, and the good thing is that she has good rolls so she rarely loses clashes, but yeah. Getting that Rip Space near the end in pretty much every fight would've solved the entire "he keeps regening health because he rolls 30s on coin rolls while we can't dole enough damage to just pwn him before he can strike with his 1 speed", especially seeing as I carefully manage her charge count to make sure she has enough "ammo" (so to speak) to use

You see, the thing about starting Limbus and Arknights is that Limbus Company's flaws get put out in the spotlight even compared to Arknights. What are mechanics tutorials? Who knows. I am still in EXP hell for these few characters when in Arknights I have like 150 of them and more of the characters levelled than I probably should have, and btw yes Arknights also struggled with the EXP requirements at first, but the events helped a lot with that. Limbus' rewards for the season pass thing make like. a dent. in EXP levelling requirements. Oh yeah, I could just farm for those, right? But those need Enkephalin. Module supplements? What are those? I get 2 of them like once every blue moon lol. This boss you've never seen before? Yeah read the cards and stuff ig. Get rekt. Arknights gets criticized for vague numbers on boss descriptions and stuff, but at least there are boss descriptions after going in one time, for all the phases. I still don't know what is needed to update the logs in Limbus lol, sometimes they show up and sometimes they don't. Oh btw a problem in this Mirror Dungeon fight is that you can't really switch your team now, and I went into this chapter not knowing who the enemies were 'cause all the chapter choices were from the future (I think). So with your boss fight it really is just trying the same team. For Arknights Chapter 14 Adverse, I joked about insanity, but actually I was making some team adjustments along the way to meet the DPS check, so it really wasn't actual insanity. This is actual insanity, though. Trying the same thing over and over again.

Also both games struggle with "mid" story (and I put quotations on terms like those because tbh I don't like using terms like "mid" or "peak" personally) at the start, and I'm guessing both improve even more after the current points, but I have a bias for Arknights' story 'cause I like the exploration of ideals, discrimination, humanity, etc., meanwhile for Limbus I watch with the engagement you have when you watch wacky coworkers do goofy things. Which ig is more or less canonical.

Am I losing it? Well yes, but actually no. Contrary to what I might seem like making this post, I am quite sane actually. Frustrated though probably lol

Oh btw the gacha rates in Limbus don't mean crap to me. I get better luck in Arknights and many more rolls too compared to Limbus. Plus rate-up is always a lie for me outside of F/GO, generally speaking. So yeah.
I got Degenbrecher yesterday (as well as Warmy, before her), which just tells me that if Logos were a Guard I'd get him in the first multi
-Galaxian-

Krill issue Galaxian

But really, where are you in limbus anyways?

If you're talking about the observation levels, those aren't required, that's just flavor text, tbh I still don't know how to unlock those myself and I just read them somewhere else lol. My guess it's based upon how many times you defeat them.

If you're talking passives, that is much more understandable. Those are required, sometimes. I usually just read what I can beforehand, and then whenever something new unlocks, I go check it out. I do the same with the skills, but I am much more careful on that end. It does sound stupid but legit I'm speaking from experience and that's really about all I needed so I don't have extra advice there unless more specific issues are raised.

I do understand the frustration of fighting a boss that you've never seen before, but I suppose that's baked into PMoon's game design. Both Lobcorp and Library of Runia do it (and much more brutally too), so I don't think you are expected to defeat a boss on the first try, especially in other specific sections of the game. I take it as a story accurate representation of how the characters have to fight. They have to jump in, get what info they can, get killed, and try again. Nevertheless I understand the controversiality of that sort of game direction.

Also as far as I know Kim doesn't have a healing factor. Or that was at least the last time when I fought Kim

I'll go thru Kim's fight and refresh myself on his mechanics. What is the team that you are using?

GalaxianExplosion · Today 00:10:00

I'll accept skill issue as being part of the explanation, but not all of it since skill issues apply equally to the other games I play as well. I feel like my other critiques are pretty reasonable.

Time wrote:
But really, where are you in limbus anyways?

Somewhere over the rainbowwww (I think what I mentioned about my engagement levels and the EXP requirements gives it away)

Time wrote:
If you're talking about the observation levels, those aren't required, that's just flavor text, tbh I still don't know how to unlock those myself and I just read them somewhere else lol. My guess it's based upon how many times you defeat them.

What do you mean they don't contain major hints on what to do :')
I'm pretty sure it's from multiple encounters, yeah. Which is again part of it. Arknights lists the core mechanics after you go into the fight once, even if you fail.
I guess I just don't find clicking and reading all that engaging when it comes to learning what I need to do, plus Limbus has the glitch of often refusing to open the effects menu anyways. (insert continuation of critique on Baba Yaga's fight mechanic here)

I don't mind fighting a boss I haven't seen before. I mind for when in this case, Mirror Dungeon, your team is set in stone already and you had no idea on what you'd need to defeat this boss who, again, you haven't seen before. I guess it could theoretically be solved by just searching up enemies in advance, but F/GO has that critiqued often of it for valid reasons (skill descriptions never give enough info, you need to go to the different wikis to see actual numbers), and I think it's true that if you need to get information from outside of a game to prep for something, then that game has a design failure in how it presents its information.

And Kim definitely has a healing factor lol. It's based on damage dealt from his hecking bone-claiming skill. I'm guessing you had enough damage to stagger and kill him quickly when you fought him, but I don't have a team who can go through that big of a chunk of 2000 HP within a limited number of turns, so. The closest one to a nuker on my team would be W Corp Don Quixote with the Rip Space skill, and then Outis and Rodya have somewhat high-rolling base EGOs that have fairly high damage if they can outroll Distorted Kim. Sometimes they cannot, 'cause I don't think I have a consistent way to outroll a 30.
The team I put into the fight was W Don Quixote, Ring Pointillist Student Outis, Rosespanner Workshop Gregor, LCCB Rodya, Zwei Assoc. Faust, and base Meursault. Notes on rationale and stuff:
-Outis was for the high-rolling EGO as I mentioned, plus its affinity is correct. Unfortunately Ring Pointillist her has pretty hecking bad numbers on her normal skills, so that bit me a few times. I tried to use her EGO whenever I could to compensate for this.
-Ik Gregor's Solemn Lament has a Sinking variant and that isn't good, but I brought him purely for the damage, plus he has a Charge Count synergy with Don Quixote. I didn't notice any error in using him. I didn't use any of his other EGOs 'cause they have potential to inflict Sinking
-Meursault has pretty horrendous rolls and speed, but that makes him a good EGO-based debuffer. And again, the affinity is correct
-Faust is for Sanity support (not mine, her EGO doesn't help me at all), and again, correct affinity
-Rodya was because of her EGO (affinity and high rolls; she outrolled To Claim Their Bones once which was pretty impressive). Didn't do too much other than that though.

And btw you don't have to refresh on mechanics. A core part of my problem was lacking the momentum to cripple Distorted Kim after Staggering him. In theory I know perfectly well how to beat him lol (suggestions are still welcome though if you feel like making them and have the time and stuff)

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:24:30

Btw, it's Shaka. Like in terms of this comparison.
If Saga were stronger, then he'd never have been forced to make the AE decision, which was clearly not pre-planned (since both Camus and Shura voiced their doubts on it)
At best it was a stalemate between them and Shaka, but tbh with all three of them having only one sense left from Tenbu Horin, I don't think it was a tie lol. Plus Shaka was the one who suggested AE, which further solidifies the fact they were forced into a metaphorical corner.
Is Saga's Galaxian Explosion more physically destructive than Shaka's attacks? I don't doubt it, though I think you might have reason to suggest that Aiolos' arrow tops that too (though it probably depends on the Cosmo that it's conveying, also we don't have an actual canon example of Aiolos using the arrow rather than Seiya so you could say that it's Seiya doing all the work lol)

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:32:12

Oh nooooo I need to rewatch Hades Sanctuary to make sure I'm remembering Saga's usage of Galaxian Explosion in that arc right, what do I doooo

Btw the dude is so funny. He's legit confused by Kanon's usage of the exact same illusion technique he used against the Bronzes in the Sanctuary arc (so like. infinite looping his Temple, having a proxy there in his armour rather than being there himself)
To his credit, he then figures out his brother's specific location immediately after that, which is impressive, but he really is like "HUH" for a bit which is hilarious

Also I'm saying that Shaka is stronger than him comparatively, but just to be clear. This dude can send one shot through all the Temples from Gemini to Pisces to the Pope's Temple, and no one seemed to even try to stop him. Clearly he has something going on for him

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:33:01

Had a funny moment where SSA said "Phantasos rate-up coming soon" and I was like "who is Phantasos"
It's the trans sleep god from LC lol (very pretty btw)

I find it funny that Phantasos is a god yet still has unresolved gender dysphoria (she can't change her appearance permanently)
~~To add salt to the wound, they're the god of "unrealistic dreams" so their ideal form is always just illusory and out of reach lmiao, and mortals thought they had it bad~~

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:36:33

Btw I don't remember Phantasos very well and all this is just in [crap]posting territory
However I will say that maybe a god doesn't have a substantial reason to change their form unless it 1) serves them a purpose or 2) is something they actually want. And iirc Phantasos did not react well to their female form being stripped away, so it's probably not just something like "they're messing with their enemies" (gods are generally too hubris-filled in SS to make tactical decisions like those anyways)

I'm really here just putting together pieces of evidence to suggest my theory of this specific non-canon god being trans is objectively correct

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:40:16

Phantasos for reference, btw

I think LC is really funny 'cause the author was kinda forced to make most of the canonically relevant Gold Saints almost carbon copies of the 20th century ones, and so sometimes how well a character design fits her art style is a coin toss

Btw in SSA Asmita and Shaka have the same VA so I'm guessing they just couldn't find another guy who does the high-and-mighty-scary-Virgo-dude impression as well (idk if it's the same one from the different anime series or not)

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:42:13

I admit that I would admire it if they're in it just for the bit. They have their thighs out and the "female" chest armour variation and everything lmiao

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:43:34

Just so you know, when I said she's pretty I really meant it lol
However, if she were in front of me, I would punt her ~~because she's creepy~~

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:45:03

The minor dream gods are funny because on one hand I cannot remember much about any of them, and on the other they clearly have that sibling dynamic of one of them doing something and the others rolling their eyes and being like "kill me now" ~~I do not have siblings~~
I guess it's fitting since Thanatos and Hypnos also have the fanon-verified vibe of one of them ~~Thanatos~~ doing something and the other ~~(Hypnos)~~ rolling his eyes and being like "kill me now"

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:48:58

Man but could you imagine. "The god of illusions keeps their enemies encased in slumber. The god's foes dream of the worlds they wish to return to and the dreams they wish to realize. But the god themselves are merely encased in an illusion of a form they can never truly change into."

I think I used up all my writing juice the past few days lol, that sucks

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:49:12

Phantasos watching all this unfold: What the [heck]

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:50:06

Nvm I just got 50 of Phantasos' goodwill so clearly them being trans is now canon <3

-Galaxian-

Time · Today 01:55:54

well the reason why I was asking exactly where you were was to know if MDH was unlocked yet, but I might as well be direct with it

is this MDH or just normal MD?

GalaxianExplosion · Today 01:59:53

Galaxian logic be like
(SS deity reacts negatively to mortal hitting them)
"they're clearly trans"

Okay but I think I remember Phantasos' reaction being different. The gods definitely don't like being scratched by mortals in general, but even compared to other gods, their reaction was just different, y'know?
I swear I am sane I swear I am sane. I need to look up El Cid's fight with them now lol

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 02:06:22

yeah I searched it up and I remembered perfectly lmiao

Tfw your plastic surgery (understatement) is reversed by some dude with a sword dream ~~Phantasos and Gilgamesh should have a talk~~

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 02:08:11

There is nothing funnier than seeing the gods of SS just Lose to mortals in some specific department (Hades sucks at swordplay, Ker sucks at fighting, Phantasos also sucks at fighting...hey look the gender stigma is there even for trans people :') ~~/j, as in joking for the gods only. the gods suck at fighting and it is because of Hubris lol~~)

No but seriously I just confirmed my memory of Phantasos absolutely losing it after getting their female form/"mask" destroyed and going after El Cid with brute force, just to lose in the martial arts department. Regardless of their domains, this is a god losing in basic physical prowess to some dude in his mid-20s. And ngl. It's so funny. Hysterical

-Galaxian-

GalaxianExplosion · Today 02:10:38

Time wrote:
well the reason why I was asking exactly where you were was to know if MDH was unlocked yet, but I might as well be direct with it

is this MDH or just normal MD?

it's normal, I wouldn't go into MDH with my current levels lol

-Galaxian-