GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Oh, how nice it would be to be in a place where people are actually maturing. (I think the problems I saw in high school got worse where I am lol)
Everyone has their own secret trivia.

I kid you not I was considering throwing in a side jab at the people that aren't maturing when I was writing this, but that wouldn't really be mature of me would it?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

-The Grand Battle Theme is often remixed to fit with the theme of a character/place. Here's a very long video that compiles pretty much every instance of it. If you want, you can use the timestamps in a comment to sample. So you could say this theme recurs a lot, but as a base of sorts for other themes.

Oh I love that sorta stuff, recurring musical motifs are so cool.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

"Witch Trials" debuted in Salem but has since then been used in scenarios to evoke a sense of dread/terror. Because that's what feeling it's associated with. Let's just say its debut left a lasting impression. xD (lowkey trauma)

I like it when exclusive tracks stay around. I remember once there was a fight in one of the video games I played. It was a standard difficulty fight, but it had a competently unique track that was to never show again, and I wish it had, you know?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Ahaha, that's a funny way of justifying it. I'm not too sure how grand the OST as a whole is. It's very possible I just like epic stuff, so it was my bias factoring in.

True, Idk what really counts as grand or not myself. I'm just saying how I think it feels. Maybe from my perspective most of the osts I've listened to just don't have the same feel.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

The list of videos that I think you might be looking for: 5, 6, 9, 10, 12, 15-17, 19, 21, 24-26

Ah thank you very much. I think my favorites out of the ones you selected were Chaldea Security Org (5) and Dark Clouds to Clear (19)

So many of these sound so fantasy-like, like I'm about to hop onto trek on a new journey with an adventuring party lol.

I'm pretty sure you see what I'm doing now. Go: thinly veiled opportunist!

You know, when it comes to music, I realize most of the tracks I have saved can be quite emotional, but they usually hold more negative emotion rather than positive. I'd love to add some more happy, lighthearted, comical, even romantic instrumental tracks to my pool. Do you have any up your sleeve? I feel like I'm more asking you now, instead of just the FGO soundtrack.

Dude I accidently clicked a link without opening it into a new tab and I just lost all my writing

I'm not sure whether to sympathise or laugh since technically I'm responsible. No worries on the enthusiasm bit, thanks for retyping on fast notice anyways xD.

Time wrote:

Words can sting and whatnot.

Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Or something like that.

Why it called "Quirky Bones" tho? That aside, I like how it kinda evokes the feeling of water droplets falling at some parts.
The second one I was expecting to go into another song that I don't know the title of for a bit, and then it took a twist. Ngl, it fits the "Quirky Bones" title more methinks. So it's for a tavern fight, huh? It made me think the player's doing some trolling.

Time wrote:

I only heard a few tracks from the f/sn VN (idk it was a VN) and the anime OST, and I'm liking what I hear so far! I was thinking of mostly using VN music since it's meant to go with reading. The only thing was that the VNs I have under my belt either don't fit the genre (Paranormasight) or had a soundtrack that is kinda mid 70% of the time (Stella of the End). I'll most def be using this as a resource. Thanks!

Ofc! :D

Time wrote:

I'm sure Chinese music has a much stronger effect on you than it does me due to culture and language barrier, but I can appreciate it for sure. I like Da Yu (Big Fish and Begonia)! I know the singing is supposed to be taking the center stage, but I liked all the instruments that surrounded and complimented the voice too. The instrumentals are also nice, however I don't think they'll often fit the genres I'm writing ha.

Apparently the singer (Zhou Shen) was nervous because he knew this song was his chance, and he kept on doing takes he didn't like, so he ended up going under his covers and singing it there lol. 
I personally freaking love instrumentals, but I do a horrible job of sorting them out when there are vocal bits, so I end up having to search them up myself. It's kinda like getting two songs for one and it's pretty neat. 

Time wrote:

But no, I 100% get what you mean with the "issue" that laugh track analogy is pretty accurate imo. For me at least, I used the music tracks as cues as well with my limited experience with VNs. Also taking this Tsukihime track. It feels weird saying "yeah this may be helpful in the future" without even really thinking when it will come in handy since as you said, it's basically like a laugh track.

This is a surprise tool that will help us later

Time wrote:

I haven't done too much digging into Sky Children of the Light OST, but from the singular track I've heard, I think I have a perfect place for it's style of music.

I hecking love Sky's OST.  For VNs, I already mentioned that knowing the OST in context might ruin the story experience, but for COTL (Sky: Children of the Light) I think that if you play through the game first (the main story), the music will become more impactful afterwards, and it won't feel weird. So I highly recommend exploring the world through the main story at least. If you get hooked to the community/setting, then that's a time commitment, but if you just want to immerse yourself in the experience temporarily (at least for the time being), I think it might be a good way to get the benefits on both sides. Take this as a double recommendation to play the game haha. 
 

Time wrote:

Same with Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni. As a side tangent, I feel the two tracks you gave me are some tracks that hit wayyy harder if you know the context, I'm guessing? Oh, and also I found a playlist with all of them. So that's good (but 116 tracks is a lot 😭)

I tried to find ones that people online said were good but didn't mention being songs that they wouldn't want people to listen to first. I might've made a mistake (in case you ever read or watch Higurashi) but hopefully I didn't.
......Nipah!

Time wrote:

Anyways, thanks for digging for me. You might not think it, but I think this actually helped me out a lot! I could try and give some recommendations of my own. Like you, I don't have a lot of songs that fit the descriptors I previously put up, but what are you looking for?

Well, I'm glad it helped you! I personally just kinda like music so, uh, please give whatever you'd like. Only stipulation is that if you're providing a song with lyrics, I don't particularly enjoy swears/vulgar words. Not sure if you listen to stuff like that, just letting you know. 
Again, my musical taste is kinda just...there somewhere, like I know what I like when I listen to it and I tend to find a lot of songs interesting. However, I dunno how to describe it. I'm looking forward to whatever really. I think I'll find it enjoyable and maybe meaningful too!

-Galaxian-

I'm sorry :skull: new record for not really forgetting about the thread but forgetting to respond every time I login

Time wrote:

Oh, I guess it's trolling and wacky. For me the most distinct memory of this song is getting in a fistfight with some assassins while being nearly naked.

...💀 (I'm not even gonna ask)
Sounds like Roland would fit into the verse (/j this is Specter's favorite characters slander)

Time wrote:

Nipah? Is this some sort of reference I'm not getting?

Anyways this is totally random but what do you think about "spoiling" music for games and shows? I mean, you can listen to music without knowing the context in the story and it technically isn't really spoiling any key plot points unless if you really are paying attention, but what do you think about it?

Kind of. Basically, it's a funny catchphrase from a Higurashi character (Rika Furude). 

I'm kinda a stickler when it comes to some types of spoiling. I get on Echo's case a lot for how he voluntarily spoils himself for what happens in F/GO, for instance. That's because as a "writer"/reader I'm aware how much works goes into the execution of an idea. When a story is summarised/spoiled, you get the essence of what happens, sure, but at the same time (most of) the experience is taken away, at least in my view. 
So anyways, the above is the context for my answer that I tend to be against "spoiling" music, though there are exceptions. I'm kinda a hypocrite in this area because I tend to get into series because of their music, so like anime OPs and EDs, but that also goes into the exceptions category because I don't think OPs and EDs typically spoil many significant moments or ideas (unless they're tailored to specific episodes). All in all it just culminates in me trying not to share music that contributes a lot towards a moment in the story, theme, etc., just in case the person I am talking to might watch the series or play through the game themselves. But I don't hold others to the same standard if I'm asking for a recommendation, and overall it's very specific. I tend to judge songs by my interpretation of how important they are, for example, rather than classify a whole group and make it so that I wouldn't link them as part of a recommendation. It depends a lot.
Compulsory question reflection time. How about you?

-Galaxian-

Time wrote:

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

 Kind of. Basically, it's a funny catchphrase from a Higurashi character (Rika Furude). 

Actually I was going to ask if there is a connection between the one Autumn was talking about and this character is from.

Yes, both are by the same writer and are murder mysteries. They're super popular too. 

Time wrote:

Usually I prefer avoiding music tracks of games and shows or whatever, as I consider them spoilers and they won't have as strong as an effect if I've already heard them. That is of course if I intend on spending my time experiencing the story fully and I actually am invested in it. I dislike even if I hear that "oh btw this custom song plays at this point in time" because sometimes, you're not expecting a special soundtrack moment or whatever, and that adds a lot to the experience as well. But I feel in this day in age, it is quite hard to achieve that.

There have been stories where I was first introduced to them via song or ost. I think that's usually fine. Because that's just another vector for getting into a story. It's practically the same thing as seeing a character you like and asking where they are from. Though I notice that actually for me, these types of songs are like, usually OPs or Theme songs of games, and they're meant to be the first of the soundtrack that you listen to, so that's fine.

Are you better at avoiding story or music spoilers? Like you mentioned, it's hard to avoid them nowadays (I do the hermit thing where I inadvertently wait until everything's calmed down so I miss the spoilers, but it's not really a method lol), so how do you do it? 

But uhhh while I should go digging for songs for you, I realize lots of the songs in my list are story heavy songs so uhhhh idk how you feel about that 💀

💀 xD
Dw about it, honestly I probably won't get around to experiencing a lot of the stories connected to those tracks, but if you don't feel right recommending them, I can always just wait for YouTube recommendations to work its magic. It hasn't disappointed me so far.
Which also leads me to asking a similar question as the above, where do you get your music recommendations? Do people IRL give you recommendations ever?

And adding on a separate note that I met a dude today who likes playing D&D and I was just thinking about you the entire time lol
(Dude was judging me for not wanting to go into tabletop roleplaying games I could feel it)

-Galaxian-

Time wrote:

I mean, more like, same universe? Or something?

Sounds like something to investigate if you get into the series. xD
(I would watch Higurashi but I get a headache from its atmosphere lol. One day...)

Time wrote:

Music. Easy. Because with music can't search up a something like a character's name name on the internet and then get "[CHARACTER NAME] death scene".

What about "[CHARACTER NAME] Death Theme - [Series Name] OST"? I've seen that a lot. Also thumbnails of a character I can barely recognise visibly giving their last smile along with covers. 

Time wrote:

Ight then

The fact that you and a RL friend talk and react the same is killing me xD

Time wrote:

Usually when people ask about what music I listen to, I say "I barely listen to music" because
1: It's true
2: My music taste is probably not their style

It usually prevents a lot of music recommendations then and there. Unfortunately. But even past that, I usually prefer digging on my own if I ever really want to. I know what I want more than anyone else.

See, I get much of my music from story media. A large portion of it is video game OSTs, but I would say I have a few tracks from other pieces as well. I don't actually know a thing about music, so I just work with what I know. Not that I'm askance from learning something new, it's more like music from story based media are, surprise, more directed for telling stories. Or that's at least my impression.

Makes sense. IRL, people ask me what I listen to too, but music preferences don't tend to be a connector between us. I've noticed a lot of people I talk to like--surprise surprise--popular music. 
On a tangent btw, is it just me or are the same songs played at the same events since a decade ago?? Is it that way for where you've been? 'Cause it is for me, and I cannot escape it.

Time wrote:

Feel free to prove me wrong, as I said, I actually don't know anything about music. I mean, I know popular artists, but I don't really listen to their tracks, which is already pretty alienating enough.
Plus I know for sure to NOT play video game OSTs in public. That stuff can be good, but it is NOT made for the public to hear.

I don't think I could prove you wrong. xD
You listen to stuff on speakers? I rarely play videos in "public," maybe 'cause rn I can retreat to my dorm for videos. But I usually use earbuds anyways.

Time wrote:

Ha, no shot he was. From my perspective, TTRPGs are a very niche hobby. It's super common to bring it up and others in the convo don't even know what it is. I don't really know how to convey it, but what I'm trying to say is that while I don't know bro, he has no right to judge people not wanting to get into TTRPGs. TTRPGs are not a hobby where you can stand all high and mighty over someone else for not playing for many reasons.

But can I ask, and sorry if this sounds doubtful, but could you be overthinking? Or is this a "for sure"?

Bro admitted to it. He thought it's weird I'd rather post/write roleplaying stuff than do it on the spot. Love how your impression of me is how much I overthink. xD
It was kinda just a friendly new acquaintance kind of judging tho. I mean, I was able to find out within a bit of talking that he really really likes armour and mecha. So I judged him right back along with the shared friend that introduced us to each other, who was scrolling through fanart of a character and saving some of them to their phone shamelessly.  lol
I think you might've taken this part a bit seriously lol xD, did you happen to know someone who's pushy about TTRPGs or something?? 

-Galaxian-

Time wrote:

Nah I'm just gonna assume that it is in the same universe for now.

What a bold assumption xD. (Reasonable tho)

Time wrote:

Yeah, like popular 2000s and stuff like that. I suppose it's cuz it's a what most of our generation grew up on idk.

Is it because we grew up with it, or is it that the people choosing the songs remain the same?

Time wrote:

HELL NO. Blasting music like nobody's business while walking around is such a garish choice. I mean I get playing it when you're in a group, and  you all are hanging out at like, say the beach or something, but just blasting it on your own or while walking around is not the move.

But anyways, I mean do NOT put tell the DJ at the party to play that stuff, or play it during an event. Cuz while it do be banging, it is not meant for normal people ears I can assure that.

What a passionate opinion xD.
I don't think I'll ever make a song request for anything ever. I'm happy playing it for myself xD. 
Random but I don't think I've actually asked you if you play an instrument or sing? 

Time wrote:

I'm not exactly sure about what you mean by pushy, but I'm pretty sure there isn't really anyone who's pushy irl.

It's more just me and my altered perspective of the world. Also the word judging usually has a negative connotation associated with it at least for me, so I that's why I took it more seriously.

Bold claim man, I don't think I can agree. 
Feels like there's a story behind that, but I won't probe this time. I meant judging in a friendly way though. It's definitely not because I'm very judgey.

-Galaxian-

I'm finding the definitions thing pretty much why no one can agree with each in philosophy. xD

On a slightly different topic, can I ask if characters had actual faces in that X-COM run you did a while back? Trying to design Urdim for real lol, so if they do I could use that as a fun lil reference.

-Galaxian-

Please tell me you edited the post because you misspelled his name again (gimme more misspellings I'm making it a canon meme)
Nah, it was so fun while it lasted (since I had the only submitted character and the dude was failing half the time lmiao).
And dw, I was just asking to see. If you remember an accessory or some other detail that I can reference, please do let me know lol

-Galaxian-

That's cheating ):
Nice, I was thinking of giving him the fluffiest scarf possible that somehow can tuck under armour, so that fits. Thanks :D

-Galaxian-

Finally I am back.
Sorry, the brainrot is still around so I might still sound like an absolute idiot, but at this rate it might last for years again and I cannot by my limited conscience leave a thread unanswered that long (intentionally). Here's a...a reply :D

Time wrote:

Nuh uh

Idk whether to blame you or Echo for this. But every time I get "Nuh uh"ed I think of a Star Wars meme video.

Time wrote:

The suits equipment I think was pretty standard. Like bullet proof vests and whatnot. But I do think I made some parts a bit more sci fi - such as grieves and gauntlets, which are straight metal. Think ODST gear. I think maybe later on I switched out the vests for chest plates after (which was just a purely visual thing). Think also ODST gear for the chest plate.

I'm imagining SS Urdim getting his Gold Cloth absolutely shattered, only for it to all break apart onto the ground, revealing a standard bullet proof vest.
Context for why this is so freaking funny to me: The Gold Cloths are supposed to be unbreakable unless you're dealing with the gods. I,,, xD.
Anyways, thank you for describing all this. I might draw the meme of Urdim wearing another suit of armour under his standard suit of armour (his Cloth) one day, I think it'd be hilarious. (ngl the ODST helmet covers more than the manga Capricorn helmet, I think he maybe should wear that instead lol)
Btw did you customize your Commander character or was Urdim pretty much the only customized guy around? (The real question: Did my guy have any friends 3: )

Time wrote:

Ok, I think I should finally do this... most of these songs are from games and such, as IRL, I barely listen to music. Usually they are chosen for sparking imagination in my storytelling. They probably won't hit as hard  I can give you extra context if you want, but I'm just gonna do a little because you mentioned your stance on spoilers. But If it comes from a game, I'll mention it if it catches your eye.

Understandable, context is very important. But I think it's cool to hear something before knowing the context, because later on that means you might be able to see how right or wrong you were or add onto your insight on what the creator (like the songwriter) might have been trying to do. I think when I hear something for the first time, my interpretation can be a bit too blatantly obvious for my own liking at times. 
My game-playing pace is like 1 game per year at fastest xD, mostly because they usually have ongoing content release and I cannot keep up. Is there any game that isn't like that that you'd recommend? 

Time wrote:

I will hit the Shinji in the chair

Disappear.
This chair is an eyesore.
This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair.

Time wrote:

Starting off with a sad one (and a classic): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Njg1LFxFk Ständchen by Shubert. - Game of Origin (or where I first heard it from): Signalis.
Classic quite literally. You play this, and I will hit the Shinji in the chair bro not kidding. It may sound like some just ordinary classical music but it hurts like a cannonball. Not bringing the game version over here because that's spoilers. The most depressing yet beautiful story I have ever played. It's not sad for the sake of being sad, characters are not suffering because people like seeing characters get angst. It's just a tragic story.

I can't actually remember if you wanted me to give my reaction, but I assume that's why I held off responding for so long? (edit: wow I could have just scrolled down and read xD)
I kinda feel like maybe even the original version has some backstory to it that I don't know, so it's lessening the impact. Is there any such thing or am I just uncivilized?
Can I ask if the context is like a theme for one character, a pair of characters, or more than 2? Asking this 'cause I know a lot of songs that are intended for two characters, and while I can't tell if this one is one such example, maybe it's that sort of song with certain portions intended to be from the perspective of one, or intended as a response to another portion, etc. Like maybe the violin and piano are intended to be from different perspectives...? Idk how wrong I am being though lol.
Off topic, but I do kinda find it funny how the West loves its tragedies so much, while China seems to kinda just like the symbolic impact of them (and extend the stories in future analogies for happier endings). Mentioning the pair thing reminded me of some songs that are romantic and/or tragic with pairs. Love and tragedy really do come hand in hand everywhere it seems. 

Postscript (idk what to call this): I googled the song on Wikipedia and wow I think I was wrong, lovely song though. xD

Time wrote:

Ok how about something else now: https://youtu.be/92E0X59wzeg?si=hOJnXYn55Z9fzm8t Compass - Mili - Game of origin: Limbus Company
Since Project Moon is a game company I am currently following, I ought to include some tracks on it. 
Here's another version I think is cool because it's more thematic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1dVC-b2OKo
Don't check comments, spoilers. This one I think can be pretty obvious about what the singer is talking about...? And who it is talking about for that matter if you remember my Limbus writings.

You and Specter mentioning Limbus Company reminds me how I've been seeing Mili songs pop up on my feed since forever.
Beginning of the first iteration reminded me of this F/GO event OST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4RvxaShy4 (as a note, it's not the same through the whole video)
I think the similarity is good since the character is supposed to be ocean-themed somewhat, I think, hopefully.
Spooky vibes. I actually wasn't expecting the direction the song was headed. I was just like, "Oh, spooky...though I thought Time said this was somewhat depressing?" Actually, it reminds me a lot of a sub-genre of Chinese pop songs where the girl in a relationship has finally broken up with someone/ended a toxic relationship and is triumphantly breaking free, except this song feels much more mixed than just that. The lyrics by themselves seem a bit triumphant at first, but the way they're being sung doesn't really match that, and the song doesn't really have an end, which fits with the character whose perspective is being sung sailing out to sea (which I do hope is what is being conveyed). 
Hoping this very mysterious character whose identity I definitely do not know buon voyage. This song sounds like she has it tough lol.

Time wrote:

both of those were sort of depressing, but here's something more jumpy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1dVC-b2OKo It's Going Down Now - Game of Origin: Persona 3 Reload
STRAIGHT BALLIN. I don't know if you've heard this one or not, it's pretty popular because it comes from a popular anime game series. Tangent, but I don't like the Persona series due to strong silent protagonist syndrome, but the only game I'd eye up playing is Persona 3 (Reload). I've liked what I've seen in terms of characters and stories and stuff. Ignoring the silent protag for the most part.

I think the URL accidentally didn't copy over (it's "Compass" again), but I used this video version lol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0PgunOzajQ)
There's some kind of tonal whiplash for sure xD
It's kinda interesting that it's apparently battle OST or something. I'm so used to F/GO (and Awakening ig) that I couldn't place where this would be put in a game. 
What do you think of Undertale's protag? Iirc they're a silent protagonist. (I don't actually remember if you've played this)

Time wrote:

Oh, what do you mean one of the most important characters is a robot girl that learns about emotions??? I totally didn't know that.

At least you and Echo both out yourselves. xD

Time wrote:

We slowing down again with this one: https://youtu.be/aL9D9gU4Jas?si=sPnyD-oAI8ac9apf Bells of Laguna Bend -  Paul Leonard-Morgan - Game of Origin: Cyberpunk 2077
Slow and peaceful. I really loved the scene when this played. Reminiscing and reflecting. It probably sounds boring on it's own, but it's pretty nice.
Another side tangent - They Cyberpunk universe is got to be one of my favorite universes out there. Pretty epic with the worldbuilding and everything. I really gotta find myself a table to play in the tabletop at some point.

I like how you narrate the music sharing. The narration makes the order feel intentional. Is it? It wouldn't surprise me since I know you have a lot of tabletop RPing experience, and so probably a lot of stuff you do is rather intentional.
Oh, also on my own side tangent, I find the thumbnails of the music we share funny, because I feel like most of these songs have a sort of thumbnail that I usually don't see on my feed, which is cool. xD Is it the same for you? I kinda made an effort to find non-spoilery/more general thumbnails so idk how much they pop out. Similarly, I don't know if you did something like that either. (you don't have to obviously, I'm just ramblin')
This song actually reminds me of this one game that I watched a bit of gameplay of. It was post-apocalyptic and you used a cat to navigate around. Stray iirc. I actually really love ambient soundtracks. I can't always play them because my brain can get bored of them if all I listen to are those (similarly I can't listen to compilations of the same singers for long because I get bored fast), but I don't see ambient music as being boring on its own.
Do you ever listen to white noise? I hear some people do it to sleep. I don't usually have problems falling asleep, plus I don't have a habit of having my phone/earbuds out next to me before going to bed, so I don't do anything of the sort. Reminded me of that though.
As you can probably tell, I write to ambient soundtracks a lot in a rambling sort of fashion, so this reply is very long and random xD.

Time wrote:

https://youtu.be/Eo4flxOo5Ew?si=DVP68vDl_W8z8dir MAJOR CRIMES - HEALTH & Window Weather - Game of Origin: Cyberpunk 2077
Epic song with thematic songs and stuff idk. Just chose it cuz I like it.

I hope there isn't anything too epic in the video 'cause it's flashing a bit too much for me to be able to stare at the screen with the tab open. However, I love quiet epic songs. I don't come across them often tho.
This being from the same universe as the previous song is really cool, too, even if for me it's just for the sake of variety. Is it a character theme? I don't know the thematic ideas, so I can't tell if the lyrics are for one specific character or a scene/pivotal moment or something. 
Also, is it a coincidence, or do you happen to like the plot of a character overcoming a past relationship and moving on? I think this song and "Compass" both seem to have that idea, but I didn't know if it was by chance or not, since you're picking out music rather than the associated story (I'm assuming). 

I decided to send only 5 in to make sure you're cool with what you're hearing, then I'll send in some more. If you want, I'd like to see what you think about these songs. They usually have some story relevance or meaning to a specific character(s)

I'm super cool with these! I just dawdled for so long because I wanted to write out some sort of response that felt fitting. I still dunno about fitting, but I really did try. I've been online this entire time hoping to sound coherent if that means anything xD. 
I wasn't able to react much to all of the songs because I'm stronger in reacting with context, but all in all I think these songs are all probably really strong in fulfilling their purpose in their proper context. I think they all convey a very specific, non-generic atmosphere. It's kinda unfortunate that I can't know all of their context, but there's always gonna be stuff I don't know so I guess I'm giving up on knowing first xD. For example, you might just call a song sad to avoid spoilers, but even without context, I feel like I can feel the difference in the emotions conveyed by "Compass" versus "Standchen", for instance. And even the simpler tracks (like "epic" tracks) feel like they have their layers.
Please do feel free to keep sending songs my way, and if you'd like for me to reply in a more specific way, please do let me know as well! Thanks for this time though :D

-Galaxian-

Ooh, I had a "victory" over this thread for nearly 2 months. Now it it starts up once more.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

 Idk whether to blame you or Echo for this. But every time I get "Nuh uh"ed I think of a Star Wars meme video.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Btw did you customize your Commander character or was Urdim pretty much the only customized guy around? (The real question: Did my guy have any friends 3: )

The thing is, Commander is really just a mysterious figure enshrouded in darkness. No customization or anything. I mean, I guess since the player is supposed to be the commander they just look like you or something? Idk. They don't say anything as well.
I did make a few customized character of my own, but I forgor them 💀

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Understandable, context is very important. But I think it's cool to hear something before knowing the context, because later on that means you might be able to see how right or wrong you were or add onto your insight on what the creator (like the songwriter) might have been trying to do. I think when I hear something for the first time, my interpretation can be a bit too blatantly obvious for my own liking at times. 
My game-playing pace is like 1 game per year at fastest xD, mostly because they usually have ongoing content release and I cannot keep up. Is there any game that isn't like that that you'd recommend?

Oh, that's actually a pretty good way to look at it. I'll take that up whenever I am "spoiled" on a song. As to games that are NOT live service. I would have to know your tastes and see if we align. I always make sure that is something I do with friends. What I play/watch is totally different than some of my other friends. What they recommend wouldn't always be something I recommend.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I can't actually remember if you wanted me to give my reaction, but I assume that's why I held off responding for so long? (edit: wow I could have just scrolled down and read xD)
I kinda feel like maybe even the original version has some backstory to it that I don't know, so it's lessening the impact. Is there any such thing or am I just uncivilized?
Can I ask if the context is like a theme for one character, a pair of characters, or more than 2? Asking this 'cause I know a lot of songs that are intended for two characters, and while I can't tell if this one is one such example, maybe it's that sort of song with certain portions intended to be from the perspective of one, or intended as a response to another portion, etc. Like maybe the violin and piano are intended to be from different perspectives...? Idk how wrong I am being though lol.

I mean I totally understand the feeling of a lessened impact. If I had not played Signalis, I probably would have skipped past this song and just wrote it off.
You mentioning that you looked stuff up on wikipedia made me look further in depth for it as well. Man is it hard to find a page that is exclusively recording [Schubert - Swan Song "Schwanengesang" D.957 No.4, Ständchen] Or the page that I found was relatively small. Anyways It most definitely is a theme for a pair of characters, specifically lovers (I think that's pretty obvious already though if you look into the lyrics). My interpretation of it is that it's some tragedy on love and longing, which you already touched on ha. But yeah, people love their tragedies.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

You and Specter mentioning Limbus Company reminds me how I've been seeing Mili songs pop up on my feed since forever.

I never really got Mili songs until I started playing Limbus Company, but I really enjoy some of the lyrics they put into their songs. I did hear that Mili tries to tell stories in their songs too, so its nice to hear them. Though like you said, it's sort of hard to interpret them without their context or knowledge of the series.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Beginning of the first iteration reminded me of this F/GO event OST: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4RvxaShy4
(as a note, it's not the same through the whole video)

Huh that's nice. Cool. I always like the addition of layers as things get more intense. That's always fun. I'm guessing this is also a water based theme, so I like how it sounds initially sounds like a radar with it's single blip.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Spooky vibes. I actually wasn't expecting the direction the song was headed. I was just like, "Oh, spooky...though I thought Time said this was somewhat depressing?" Actually, it reminds me a lot of a sub-genre of Chinese pop songs where the girl in a relationship has finally broken up with someone/ended a toxic relationship and is triumphantly breaking free, except this song feels much more mixed than just that. The lyrics by themselves seem a bit triumphant at first, but the way they're being sung doesn't really match that, and the song doesn't really have an end, which fits with the character whose perspective is being sung sailing out to sea (which I do hope is what is being conveyed). 
Hoping this very mysterious character whose identity I definitely do not know buon voyage. This song sounds like she has it tough lol.

Hmmm I didn't think of it like this. The fact that it doesn't really have defined end and just ebbs end probably has to also do with the fact that VGOSTs have to be loopable, but I really like the idea that the song end the way it does because its saying the character's journey doesn't end here, and it goes on. I didn't really notice the triumphant lyrics + differing tone? The initial thought when it comes to the tone in the beginning is like some sort of gritty determination trying to push forwards.
On that note, I do think most Sinners, or for that, any City resident has it tough.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I think the URL accidentally didn't copy over (it's "Compass" again), but I used this video version lol (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0PgunOzajQ)

Bruh 💀. Nevertheless, yeah, that was the link I was gonna use.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

There's some kind of tonal whiplash for sure xD
It's kinda interesting that it's apparently battle OST or something. I'm so used to F/GO (and Awakening ig) that I couldn't place where this would be put in a game. 
What do you think of Undertale's protag? Iirc they're a silent protagonist. (I don't actually remember if you've played this)

I figured I should give a tonal whiplash as a pallet cleanser or whatever ha. But yest this is battle OST, specifically SEES Team Advantage, aka: the good guys are winning.
I think Undertale having a silent protag is fine. I've never played Undertale, it's far too big to not know stuff about it. Frisk is fine because as far as I recall, Frisk isn't meant to be some super charismatic leader or something. They're just meant to be a kid. Compare that to Persona protags. They're usually the leader of a group of Persona users that are trying to bring change to the world. Now I know there are many different types of leaders, but Persona protags are usually viewed as the "beacon of shining hope with unbreakable character" in their teams. Everyone looks up to them, everyone likes them, and everyone says they're so strong and powerful. But what has the protagonist really done to earn such respect? Sure, he may be powerful, but during times of emotional distress with individual team members, he at most he says like, 4 words of encouragement that anyone can think of, and then the character he is talking to is all like, *gasp* "Wow why didn't I think of that? That's why you're our leader. So strong. I wish I could be like you."

It makes no sense. Most Persona protags don't have that charisma nor personality to be that type of leader. I'd rather see an actual character with personality instead of a quiet and 80% emotionless blank that is meant to be a self-insert for players. Now I have heard characters like Persona 4 protag Yu Narukami has a lot more personality in the anime, but that is besides the point. Oh, and also to clarify I'm talking about Persona 3-5.

I know you asked about my thoughts on Undertale, but instead you got Persona, but there you have it.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

At least you and Echo both out yourselves. xD

I out myself because its funny feigning a desire, Echo outs himself because he's attracted. There's a difference.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I like how you narrate the music sharing. The narration makes the order feel intentional. Is it? It wouldn't surprise me since I know you have a lot of tabletop RPing experience, and so probably a lot of stuff you do is rather intentional.
Oh, also on my own side tangent, I find the thumbnails of the music we share funny, because I feel like most of these songs have a sort of thumbnail that I usually don't see on my feed, which is cool. xD Is it the same for you? I kinda made an effort to find non-spoilery/more general thumbnails so idk how much they pop out. Similarly, I don't know if you did something like that either. (you don't have to obviously, I'm just ramblin')
This song actually reminds me of this one game that I watched a bit of gameplay of. It was post-apocalyptic and you used a cat to navigate around. Stray iirc. I actually really love ambient soundtracks. I can't always play them because my brain can get bored of them if all I listen to are those (similarly I can't listen to compilations of the same singers for long because I get bored fast), but I don't see ambient music as being boring on its own.
Do you ever listen to white noise? I hear some people do it to sleep. I don't usually have problems falling asleep, plus I don't have a habit of having my phone/earbuds out next to me before going to bed, so I don't do anything of the sort. Reminded me of that though.
As you can probably tell, I write to ambient soundtracks a lot in a rambling sort of fashion, so this reply is very long and random xD.

Ok it is true that I intentionally ordered these songs, but don't try to butter me up and all saying it's due to experience or whatever. I did that just because I think it would be nice for a better flow. I think when you introduce things to people you don't just throw things to the wind.
But anyways. Yeah I know Stray. I've heard good things about it but I've never played it.
I don't listen to white noise. I also do not have any trouble with falling asleep.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I hope there isn't anything too epic in the video 'cause it's flashing a bit too much for me to be able to stare at the screen with the tab open. However, I love quiet epic songs. I don't come across them often tho.
This being from the same universe as the previous song is really cool, too, even if for me it's just for the sake of variety. Is it a character theme? I don't know the thematic ideas, so I can't tell if the lyrics are for one specific character or a scene/pivotal moment or something.

Oh yeah no worries there isn't anything epic. Just that same glitching animation over and over. Honestly, it isn't really fun for the eyes either, I agree. Good thing I just usually tab out of those while working on something else.
What do you mean by quiet epic songs? As in songs that have like, a softer singer with some stronger instruments or something?
If I recall, it's not really a character theme, though it's one of the more popular tracks. It was used in Cyberpunk Edgerunners too. I think its pretty good for describing the main character in Cyberpunk 2077 as well. The story being that they're trying to trying to find a way cure themselves of what is essentially an incurable disease while fighting through countless conspiracies of lowlives and megacorps. 
I do like the the thumping noises at the beat drop when they sing "Life's short", around 2:00. I interpreted as gunfire, since the Cyberpunk world is filled with lots of violence and crime.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Also, is it a coincidence, or do you happen to like the plot of a character overcoming a past relationship and moving on? I think this song and "Compass" both seem to have that idea, but I didn't know if it was by chance or not, since you're picking out music rather than the associated story (I'm assuming).

I think I do, yes. Facing and overcoming the past. That sounds really general, but it's fun to handle.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I wasn't able to react much to all of the songs because I'm stronger in reacting with context, but all in all I think these songs are all probably really strong in fulfilling their purpose in their proper context. I think they all convey a very specific, non-generic atmosphere. It's kinda unfortunate that I can't know all of their context, but there's always gonna be stuff I don't know so I guess I'm giving up on knowing first xD. For example, you might just call a song sad to avoid spoilers, but even without context, I feel like I can feel the difference in the emotions conveyed by "Compass" versus "Standchen", for instance. And even the simpler tracks (like "epic" tracks) feel like they have their layers.

Yeah, that's what lack of context be like. It's unfortunate, but still as you mentioned, listing to them without influence can provide insight to others that have listened with context. That or you compare the before and after for context. 

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Please do feel free to keep sending songs my way, and if you'd like for me to reply in a more specific way, please do let me know as well! Thanks for this time though :D

Sounds cool 👍 This is fun to me, so I don't mind. Respond to me however you like.

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GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Okay now I think that one is done by Specter too. Us forumers picking up each other's speaking (typing) mechanisms is pretty hilarious ngl.

I do think that it interesting, that's how groups and stuff work after all. Picking up traits and stuff.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Then do you consider Urdim a friend ): (/j btw xD)

I guess so. Especially when you're fighting against a tyrant alien government, I think I'd try to be friends with everyone on the ship.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

-Good story that I can reread without having to pay currency or something (you might laugh but in F/GO you can access the soundtrack in the game only by buying it with materials, so maybe somewhere out there rereading story is not free)
-I like fighting games (I like action and fantasy as you probably know)
-But I can't do first-person perspective. It makes me nauseous. I can usually watch videos of it for some reason (at least for longer periods without getting sick), but I can't do the controls myself

Huh idk really of any free to play fighting games, if we're thinking of like, traditional fighters. Aside from mobile ones and stuff. I will say that story is the biggest factor for me playing games nowadays though.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

-This isn't really a criteria per se, but I think I have some inner preferences for character design, but I don't know how to specify on this. It's kinda related to how some people can get really triggered on armour for girls (how impractical the designs tend to be, with high heels, open chest areas, etc.). I'm kinda like that--I like a touch of realism to designs in connection with the setting/world of the work--but it's not as simple as that. For example, I wouldn't have played F/GO if not for the fact that the story was said to be good (and I had some experience with previous works in the franchise to know that the claim might hold true for me), or else the fanservice would have kept me away. Arknights also has a very nice aesthetic, and I heard the game isn't very time-consuming, but I'm not a big fan of the outfits. Similarly, Genshin apparently has a good story, but it's very time-consuming and I don't really like the designs there.

Oh I understand that. You'll be willing to put up with that sorta stuff if it excels in areas you actually enjoy. I think most people are like that as well.

I heard that Genshin is pretty grindy yeah. I have an irl friend that is similar enough in taste; that being high priority in character and worldbuilding, so I'll just use his ideas for my thoughts for now on the topic of Genshin. From his opinion as a player, he thought the story was mostly ok, but he felt that the worldbuilding was a bit lackluster. As in all you get for worldbuilding is just what's presented in front of you during the story, and it doesn't really go, or feel, deeper than that. But maybe he's just talking about the early chapters/arcs.

Anyways I agree that Arknight's aesthetic and art style is pretty good. I love the techware designs. Though what part of you makes you not too big of a fan of the outfits? The outfits I've seen don't really have much fanservice.
Side note - I decided to look into designs and it seems Arknights designs can vary a lot. Some of them are pretty grounded and tactical while others are pretty, y'know, anime-y

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

How about we just talk generally about your favorites? I know you play Limbus Company, but what other games have you enjoyed? I'm particularly interested in maybe some old favorites of yours that you played when you were little or something and still hold in high regard. Kinda like how SS is my first anime and I like it a lot, but I probably wouldn't have chosen to watch it if it weren't something important for my mom. Are there any games like that for you? Or maybe any that you have an eye on?

Sure, just keep in mind that I can give you some recommendations at any time.

I started building my library not too long ago, and I only recently began placing games in a more analytical light. So I guess I don't have "old favorites" that I've really played and would still recommend. I mean sure I have some nostalgic games I remember playing, like Wizard 101, but I don't remember a single thing from it storywise lol.

Signalis is pretty good. It's the only story on my list that currently has a 10/10 rating. Though that's because I really place a lot of weight on the story and I am pretty tolerant on gameplay. I'm sure lots of people don't like it because it's storage system is pretty brutal or smth. Though it's not a game I would recommend to everyone. You can just play it and ignore the story for the most part (why would you do that), but if you want to get into the story I recommend watching lore/explanation vids afterwards. I also recommend being in a healthy mental state.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Yeah, it's probably one of those songs I'd like a bit as a part of a compilation but would also never remember the name of. That does happen a lot for songs in general, but still gotta apologise to Schubert for that lol :-P
I'm very obtuse on lyrics unless I explicitly analyse them. Similar for poetry. Excluding some poems that I immediately get, usually I have to annotate and think extensively before I can "get" them. 

Honestly, poetry isn't really my thing. I when it comes to most poems, I'd just rather skip the analysis and just read whatever anyone else thought of.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Looking at it, the titles "Schwanengesang (Swansong)" and "Ständchen (Serenade)" make it pretty obvious what the song is, but midnight me decided to go the hard route and arrive at a very weird conclusion instead of doing the obvious, which is great and very typical lol. 
Do you have a favorite tragedy? Can be real or fictional. Might be a bit cruel to answer a real one, though (I may or may not have a favorite real tragedy that I make blatantly obvious,,,) 

Most of the tragedies I've read are like, Shakespeare, so I guess I'll go with Hamlet.

Though branching out, modern tragedies? I already used this card in this post but: Signalis.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Sort of. Iirc in the event you travel in a place called the Void Space, which is sorta ocean-themed. As the event progresses, more monsters appear from all around (and you're pretty much in pitch blackness too, hence "Void" Space), and the event itself is Eldritch-themed, so it's escalation all-around. You have Captain Nemo, Van Gogh, and Yang Guifei with you as the primary Servants, if that explains anything lol.

I think I remember hearing a little about it. Something with Lovecraftian gods "possessing" characters?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Ok yeah, I'm just stupid. xD But even you mentioning it "ebbs" gives me some water imagery in my head. I'll pretend I had a point and that it still is like that in the official soundtrack. (Does it?) xD
Btw, I could probably just search this up, but who named them Sinners? Themselves? Or other residents of the City?

using the word "ebbs" was intentional, but anyways yes let us go with that

The answer is we don't know (yet) though I am guessing it's a term that Faust made up. Maybe a term to describe a group of people that are always paired with each other no matter what mirror world they are in.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Iirc Arknights has a silent protagonist as well, as does F/GO (with some exception). It's kinda ironic how writing a non-silent protagonist seems just as hard as writing a silent one. Or would you perhaps disagree on this assertion? (it's not really an assertion it's just a possibility, alas)
Do you think maybe the difficulty comes from it being hard to write a competent leader who is also the protagonist? Right now just thinking about it, I kinda think about the difficulty maybe coming from the competency needed to be a leader contrasting with the development factor of protagonists, who are rarely supposed to be static characters (if ever? Putting a question mark there because I dunno, I can't think of static protagonists tho).

Hm, maybe it's how a silent protagonist that is handled that really makes me salty about Persona's silent protags. I'll look into this idea of silent protagonists soon. I won't disagree on your claim, because I think it may be true. Instead maybe silent protags require a different mixture of storytelling ingredients.

But yes I think a part of the difficulty comes from the fact Persona's protags are also leaders of the group. If the protag wasn't the leader and instead just the ace of the team, they would be a much easier character to write. Because they'd be mostly respected for something that we clearly see, and that's their fighting prowess. Maybe it's the fact that Persona protags are pretty static, and usually having a static character as your protagonist in long form storytelling situations is very disadvantageous.

Most static protagonists work better in shorter form stories that you can pick up anytime, anywhere. As an example, comic book protags are/were static, that way a reader could pick up any of the comics at anytime and not wonder why in the world is the central character acting so widely different.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Are you feigning it tho? Or are you exaggerating? It's not like it's wrong to be biased (Echo exaggerates it too obviously).
Btw, you could make fun of my preferences too, if you wanted to pick them out. I'd be interested to know them. xD

I mean yeah I know it's not wrong to be biased. That stuff is natural. But you'll never catch me with delusional brainrot anytime soon.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Can't cook you without buttering you up first. What else do you want me to do??

Fair.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Idk, it's probably a personal difference. Quiet epic songs (which is probably not the best descriptor) can be listened to frequently without spiking my anxiety. Boss themes tend to fit these more. Some songs spike my heart rate up and are great, but not for looping. The difference is probably not quantifiable for anyone else.

Oh that makes sense. I also understand your thoughts too. Just the right song for the right time. 

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Very interesting take! I wasn't able to hear it like that (probably because of IRL gunshots and police cam videos), but now that you point it out I can kinda hear it.

Oh yeah no it's not supposed to be realistic at all. But I mostly associated it not because of accuracy to the real thing, but more so due to the choppiness of the sound  and the fact they say "life's short" right above it. Like, yeah, life is short if you're living a life of violence.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I'm trying to pare the quoted portions down so just the important context remains, but I don't really wanna splice paragraphs apart. Hope that's okay xD

Yeah that's good. I don't mind that. Tbh I should do the same as well. Anyways I did not proofread this thing very well, and I noticed that some of my sentence structures were initially trash and needed some restructuring so sorry about that I'll go re-edit everything if need be.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

It was pretty fun watching the rest of us pick up on saying "bruh" from you xD.

bruh.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Dang, but then there are no funny character relationship dynamics. (/hj)

On this note, I think XCOM would have been really fun if it was co-op. I was introduced to it by people that were using a combination of software and mods to make it that way and have more content.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Is this the same friend you were talking to at the same time the server brought up the topic?
I remember seeing some people talking about how in Genshin there barely seems to be immigrants from other regions or, in general, international discourse (regions talking about other regions), but I kinda just chalked it to worldbuilding being hard.

Yes this is. Same conversation, same topics. The dude also said something similar. He disliked how fragmented the world was. That there wasn't anything really connecting anyone together. And a few other things but yeah.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Apparently the designs that I've seen leaned towards things that I don't like. I discovered through considering the topic that I seemingly have something against people who have to fight/be involved in action wearing shorts. Footwear seems pretty practical overall.

See not too bad right? I don't think I mind the designs too much as long as they're not blatantly fanservice-y. Bonus points if the character is in that signature sci fi, techware, tacticool style that I associate with Arknights.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

But at this point, although I dunno what it is, I do still prefer F/GO's character design. Maybe the fact F/GO characters are based on characters/people who already exist give the designers a leg up or something?
Last but not least, I think maybe I got spoiled by F/GO using so many different artists, and so the very similar art style for all characters that lends to Arknights' aesthetic simultaneously made the designs seem duller to me. Part of it is still true though, the faces are more typically anime-ish than F/GO, though maybe it really is just stylistic difference.

I personally prefer Arknight's designs. I think it's more washed out colors(?), taticool designs, and even as you mention, duller, designs allow it to address darker themes easier. Which I like. I also think it's just a matter of taste for me as well.

Why wouldn't you recommend it to everyone? Is it niche or something?
Also, I noticed Signalis and Limbus Company are both horror games. Do you happen to like the genre, or is it a coincidence?
1. It's niche
2. Some people don't have the mental capacity to address it fully. Like they're immature, have a 0.5 second attention span, or have zero literacy.
3. Just not their taste

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Story-skippers are another race fr, I could never. I can't even skip bad event stories from F/GO (I mean not that they occur often, but probably the worst one I've seen did just end recently). 
You might as well just say I'm not qualified mentally, no need to imply it (/j). I'll put it on my future list for whenever I actually buy games, and hopefully it doesn't make me have a seizure or something then lol. 

I should mention that there is flashing bright colors in some sequences yeah lol. Though I'm sure you saw that already in the trailers (I'm assuming you did some research on it)

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Sorry for responding only to react, but this is just so funny to me xD. Guessing you don't write them either?

Yeah no poetry here. Though I don't mind it if like, I'm writing a character that is a poet or I'm reading it in a story you know? I just wouldn't go out of my way to read it.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I gotta read Hamlet sometime. I've come across so many characters named Ophelia referencing her.

Interesting. Tbh I haven't seen many character references to Shakespeare. I liked Hamlet because of
1. It's subjectivity
2. How lots of it is lowkey kinda funny.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I also need to start tallying the number of characters I know named Faust and Mephisto. 
What are mirror worlds, may I ask? I kinda got reminded of me always placing characters in similar relationships across universes, so I'm curious.

Uhhh just think Fate alternate realities(?)
How many Fausts have you counted?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Funnily enough, I think I'm very used to protags being in the tactician/leader position. I think I can see what you mean, though. Leaders/commanders need to be charismatic rather than just capable, but silent protagonists have much less room to demonstrate their charm. 
Also of note, I forgot what a silent protag is again, so ignore that. Arknights' protag is semi-silent, while F/GO's is probably not. I lowkey thought as long as your dialogue doesn't really make an impact then you count as a silent protag. Watch me be doubly wrong though :skull:

Huh, I see. Gotcha. Though idk, a silent protag can be hard to define at times. I thought the Doctor was relatively silent in terms of silent protag.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

That's a really good point! I do wonder if "logically" speaking it's also because comic books usually have some kind of weird looping chronology. I mean, the students in them never ever graduate to the next level from what I can tell. (I do not read many comic books)

I suppose so too yeah. Though I think nowadays comic books follow the path of releasing full storylines. I've seen plenty of comics that are in series and stuff.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

The event ones are particularly cool because there are some game mechanics tied to the themes.

Ooh the mechanics are tied to the themes? Really cool. I have heard that Arknights can get pretty innovative with their tower defense.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I can't play the event much because my units are not leveled lol, but yeah.

Say do you think that the story of the event will still be available afterwards?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Fun fact, the lady in the thumbnail from Event Theme #1 is my first 6-star unit and I absolutely do not know how to use her properly. Love people with instruments though (I have a severe bias)

I was wondering why you were mentioning about Arknights so much, I just had to check your homethread for the answer
I wanted to hide this longer but: Make that two for first 6 star. Got her on my first roll.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Realistic or not, I think it's great you picked up on it. See, I am not insightful enough to pick up on stuff like that without listening really really closely (in addition to knowing context). I didn't even hear the "life's short" part.

I think that was just a "luck" thing. You know? I usually don't do well with song analysis.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Reading these posts isn't a problem for me, since I kinda skim the quoted sections to remember what we were talking about. I'm just worried they look too funky for you.

Nah they're fine dw. I'll ask for clarification if needed.

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GalaxianExplosion wrote:

So did you play using the mods at any point, or was that just the introduction component?

Oh I was intending my run with Urdim and stuff with mods. Tbh I think I should have added the more radical mods, like alien resistance members and stuff because that would have been cool. Could have allowed people to make alien characters too

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

F/GO players are known for not reading, so there goes that spot on the list. /hj

Well Limbus Players can be illiterate too so don't worry

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Well, it's horror. Of course there's flashing bright colors somewhere. Hopefully there isn't really really loud distorted screaming though. (Then again it does feel somewhat analog horror-y so idk)
I haven't played any horror games ever, including the ones that are just more scary, so ngl if I ever do get around to Signalis, I think I need to make sure I'm physically capable of playing them first. Or else if I died playing a game a friend recommended, that'd be funny as heck (but simultaneously not very good lol). I think something about a dark screen and constant anxiety gets to me. Wow that sounds obvious.

That does seem funny ngl. But I mean there are loud sounds and like, dreadful music. I played in complete darkness with red ambient light to get into the mood, but I'm pretty sure things get a lot less scary if

1. You play with the lights on/during the day
2. Somewhat turn down the volume
3. Up the gamma settings in game

Though by that point it loses it's ambiance imo.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

You'd be brave writing a poet character without practicing first. xD

Nah I'd just do a lot of studying on poets and just copy some of their techniques its fine right?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I feel like I don't get Shakespeare humour very well. The last time I thought I did, it was from Taming of the Shrew and there were a lot of implications I did not get at the time. Classroom moment.

Honestly reading Shakespeare really isn't the ideal way to consume it. It's a play after all, so I think lots of comedic moment and implications are lost without the performance of the actors.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

At least 4, but I feel like I come across different Fausts almost all the time. Oh yeah, Mephistopheles is in Fate lol. 

I figured as much. Fate has a lot of characters anyways.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Yeah, I like to imagine they just stare at their phone the entire time for battles lol. For most of the beginning cutscenes they were literally just saying "...", 'cause for me it felt weird to actually talk more while being amnesiac. It felt like they'd be the type to not respond whenever they could to assess the situation.

I thought the lore was that the "phone" was actually a neural network in the Doctor's mind, connecting them to Rhodes Island. Which I actually like a lot more.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Dang, really? That's a lot of dedication. I don't keep up with comics xD. 

Oh I don't really either. I've just seen them and know a little about them. Never really them.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Gamepress says that "the event story will only be added to the [Information Processing Room] after the event ends." So maybe it will be? Some of the characters feel like important ones ngl. 

Hopefully. I will go insane if they remove the story content from the game. How far did you get into the event anyways? Since you started a day's ahead of me, we're definitely around the same level.
Side note. Comparing the event's visual novel sections between and the first episodes, I can already sense that the writing team has gotten a LOT better at writing. I didn't even really have to try to pick out improvements. Like, the biggest one  that I saw that that the writers actually DESCRIBED what was happening around the characters instead of just moving some sprites around screen and making noise, with characters saying what is happening.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

I started playing because I was saying to you that I didn't like the designs and commented on YouTube that if I ever started playing it it'd be because of the music. Ha.
And nice. I got the 5-star before I got her lol. And then I got the 5-star again. I think I might like Bassline more in terms of both character and gameplay, at least the latter as of right now because Virtuosa is an Elemental Support and I don't have anyone (that I know of) who uses the elements.
Have you been using her? I tried farming Trust with her at first but the event story difficulty amped up, so I couldn't waste a slot. She mostly reminds me of Madoka Magica's Homura lol, they look like they could be sisters. Very different sorts of people though. (As just one example, Homura uses guns and explosives)

Yeah. I've heard that Arknights is pretty generous with units. Which played a factor in me deciding to play or not.
I don't think I'll be using Virtuosa for the time being. I'm guessing she's newer, so she might be a little bit more complex. I'll use her on later tho. As for my standard 6 star, I got Archetto. I don't think I've received a 5 star yet tho...?

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Why were you hiding it though xD? It's funny but I have to ask.

Because I love being nonchalant and mysterious. Though really I think it's moreso just I wanted to collect my thoughts on it more before speaking on it. Otherwise I was more on the basis of "won't talk about it unless it comes into the convo". It was similar to Limbus Company.

Edit: I forgot to add these responses, so I'll just put them at the end here

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Your friend sounds more hardcore analyst than I am xD. (So do you btw, you tend to sound pretty serious about worldbuilding.) I think I specialize more in plot and character analysis, and even then I'm not that great at it.

Well I'm not too good at it either, don't worry. I think while I worldbuilding a lot, all of it is for making the story better. I don't think I have a specialization as of now.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Love you defending the game because its design style probably fits with your genre preferences xD. Can I ask what you think about Fate designs? Like in general too of course, but also feel free to talk about specific characters. I'm very interested in what you think of Artoria Pendragon (the OG Saber version).
I've heard a good amount of praise in general on her and Rin (Tohsaka)'s design, but I'm guessing those are usually from their fans rather than in general, so I'm interested.

Because it does fit my genre preferences 💀
Most of my perspective on Fate designs are that they're just eh. They're serviceable. Much of them are pretty plain. They don't really make up for it in cool factor for me either. I mean, most of them are just everyday outfits. Grounded designs can be nice, and I do have examples where I like them, but for some reason I find most of these designs not interesting. Though I think Artoria's outfit is nice. I mean, you can tell she's a swordswoman/knight by looking at her. She's probably more calmer and reserved as well normally due to her hairstyle and the blue coloring. That's about all  for now. Though ofc this is my knowledge of Fate, not exactly F/GO.

GalaxianExplosion wrote:

Fair. I think if I were a cosplayer I'd definitely prefer Arknights costumes in general (though some of them I'm not as sure about). As an artist maybe I like F/GO's more, especially with so many potential costumes shown in Craft Essences.
Thematically I'll give F/GO a defence in that its themes aren't supposed to be that dark, so it goes with that taste that you mentioned. Most of the Heroic Spirits are literally heroes, so of course they don't all look gloomy, or the promotion art would be hella weird. But if you look at the Avengers/Anti-Heroes, and the Alter Ego variants of usual Servants, then you get that edgy vibe. Guessing you might not like the Alter/Avenger aesthetic as much as I do though. (I have player bias in this, I have Extra class bias in general xD)

Yeah I guess so. I think different designs would correlate to different promotional material/tactics.
On the mention of Avengers, I looked a bit and I totally forgot seeing Oda Nobunaga's design. I like her design a lot actually. Especially when she has that big gun.

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