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Bro really think he the thinker đ
Screw it. Imma post them. I'll put them in a way that it's bite sized and if anyone actually cares they can only read the stuff they wanna read
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Shooottt nvm
I'm currently continuing the game's story rn and loads of my opinions have changed concerning characters
The game is Limbus Company btw. I pulled from the "Good Story Thread" and selected one of them that had a impression on me and I had spotted before.
Thanks Specter!
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Brooo this creative analysis shtuff is going to take a toll on my energy, but imma still do it.
As of current there are three chapter/character analyses that I need to do... BUT...
I don't like feeling that I have to play catch up when I am doing this stuff. I usually like thinking about one project, working on that project, and then moving on to a project I want to do in the FUTURE rather than catch up on projects in the past, if that makes sense.
So I think I may just drop 2 of the chapter analyses (I consider them to be catch-up) and just analyze the current one when I finish it...? Unless If I start the next chapter asap? Oof. I'm now going to have to plan out when to analyze and when to actually play the game if I really wanna do that stuff.
Orr maybe I just don't make the character analysis that long and just condense it! That way it's much quicker to write and there's not really a need for planning! Yes!
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I think I'm just talking nothing at this point
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Looking forward to whenever you post about the game! I'm interested to hear your thoughts, maybe I can suggest giving your point of view on past chapters from your current perspective?
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Also forgot to mention this earlier but have fun your trip :D
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SpecterTheGreat wrote:
Looking forward to whenever you post about the game! I'm interested to hear your thoughts, maybe I can suggest giving your point of view on past chapters from your current perspective?
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Oh yeah for sure. those 9 pages were all about mostly the Canto I and II excluding the final stage of Canto II (interesting choice of using canto instead of chapter)
I may or may not post them since they're a bit outdated. If I don't, I'll probably just incorporate and update.
Also: thank you! It's going pretty well so far.
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This is a wild guess bc I'm not too familiar with the game nor the thing I'm going to mention but, maybe a reference to Dante's Divine Comedy? A cousin was talking about it to me and I think I recall the chapters being instead named Canto.Â
(it's either that or I'm getting confused with a poem thing for chapter divisions.)
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Actually, thank you so much for that info. I didn't know The Divine Comedy was separated into cantos. I'll have you know that the man character's name IS in fact Dante lol. So that makes plenty of sense.
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Shoooot I couldn't resist the urge and I started playing Canto 3.5 and 4 bruh oh well. Looks like I gotta hurry up with my updates and start posting them now lol
It's no worries though. I do need to update and actually get things moving. I think I may post 1 or 2 topics at a time? With probably a few hours pause at minimum to let things simmer and convos happen if that ever is brought up?
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Well, the first bits are going up concerning Limbus Company, whether I'm ready or not. First up, hook/premise, followed by a patterns of symbolism and metaphor that I think would also be a decent preface.
Premise/Hook
Limbus Company follows the story of 13 Sinners, and their efforts to capture the Golden Boughs, tremendously amazing remnants of a great, powerful company that held influence throughout The City.
This story is told through the perspective of Sinner No. 10, Dante. They take the role of Executive Manager. It is the Executive Managerâs job to lead the 12 others in battle, resuscitate them from death and injury, and probably the hardest task of them all: make sure they donât kill each other.
This story is one of what appears to be a mysterious, dystopian, sci-fi world. This is (currently) a story with many questions to be answered, hopefully we will get the answers we seek in due time.
Symbolism
I'm going to add a disclamer here that this section is simply evidence for the claim I make in the next sentence, nothing more. So if things make no sense there, I am sorry. Next post, coming tommorow, will get into characters, and maybe the world too!
Itâs clear as day that this story takes loads of religious inspiration. Let me list some obvious notes for later use down the road.
The MCâs name sake is from The Divine Comedy, as their name is Dante. The word âLimbusâ in Limbus company can refer to Limbo, the place on the edge of hell. The word âinfernoâ is commonly thrown around, also in reference to Danteâs Inferno.
In combat, instead of elements, like water, earth, fire, etc, the elements are actually the 7 deadly sins, such as gluttony, pride, wrath and so forth. What is peculiar though is instead of including greed, they replaced it with âgloomâ. This may be just simply a different interpretation of greed/the 7 sins, but I am not aware of it yet. I may have to look into it later.
There are also probably loads of metaphors and such that I am currently forgetting or didnât notice.
In addition, the story spells it out for you if it wasnât obvious already: Spoilers for Canto 3. I will have separate spoilers detailing minor, and then more explicit, detailed spoilers. I will try to keep the details separate from each other, so if you donât want to read the major spoilers, you should be able to understand everything normally.
Minor spoiler
Detailed Spoiler For Canto 3Not taking much reference outside, but in Canto 3, there was loads of imagery pertaining to Christmas. Silent Night is a prevalent song that is played, and itâs in fact played in the opening scene.
Throughout Canto 3, characters keep on saying that Christmas is just a long length away, like, 3 separate times. Do you know what that means? That means that it is going DOWN on Christmas. I have my theories, but I think I won't share them yet.
Taking details from the story, the time of the story from Prologue to Canto 3.5 has been a few months (probably 3 or so), and Canto 4 takes place in early May.Â
I predict this will become a major plot point in the future so I label it as a major spoiler)In the massacarded town of Calw, peopleâs body parts are displayed like ornaments in evergreen trees while Silent Night plays in a sadder and more ominous tone
So clearly, yes, there will be lots of religious references here. Specifically pertaining christianity/catholicism. I wish that I was more educated in this sort of field in being able to understand more references on my own instead of having to use the net to look things up.More importantly and mysteriously in Canto 3:
During Canto 3, there is a character who bears what is simply termed as âa signâ on their forehead. Itâs a red, glowing mark. But whatâs more important to analysis is that itâs the Mark of Cain. I canât analyze it too much yet, as we still donât know much about it. Plus, I havenât read up on the meaning of the mark or how it is displated in other media, so I cannot come up with any well thought through theories. Maybe in a later update Iâll touch on it again. But yes, seeing this, this is certainly a story with lots of religious symbolism.
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Whewh, looking at what the stories I can read/watch/play, idk what to choose. It's just so much! Ig I just need to do it piece by piece
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Reading all that makes me much more interested in the game than I originally was so I might consider checking it out more in-depth in the future. I'm glad to see you're enjoying it đ
Regarding that last spoiler point
After killing his brother Abel, Cain was asked to go into exile/wander around the earth or something like that, but he was afraid people would kill him for being a murderer. So God put a mark on his forehead to let people know it was Cain and no harm should come to him. If someone did kill him or otherwise harmed him, they'd be punished seven times or something like that.
That's what I recall from the Bible. I'm not sure how or if this has been shown in media or books, since it's the first time I hear it mentioned outside the Bible and I find it very interesting.
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Ooh that'd be cool. So far it's been great! Imma go and try and get the imporant posts out now. Things including characters, magic/tech systems, and the worldbuilding.
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More info/idea generated from your input: Canto 3 Spoiler concerning your post if you want to learn more information on who has the mark and see if there may be any parallels.Wow that is actually pretty interesting. I makes me wanna read that stuff in more detail just to understand the reasoning more
The character who bears The Sign is Demian. He is inspired by the character of the same name from Demian: The Story of Emil Sinclair's Youth.
If you haven't read the story:
To give a quick summary (from someone who hasn't read the story themselves) Emil Sinclair grows up in a sort of sheltered, Christian household, but as time passes, he is exposed to all sorts of things in the world. Good and evil, light and dark, all sorts of things. Demian is a character that is consistently present with Sinclair throughout the story, as they grow older together. It's a coming of age story.
I realize that reading a synopsis on this story helps me under stand the characters more. The Mark is a consistent motif and symbol in the story. It's said that those who have the mark are considered "important" or something of the sort (not exactly sure). In addition, Demian's view of The Mark is such a contrast from mainstream media, that it's shakes Sinclair's core beliefs. I may be very, very wrong, but I think Demian's view was that it was a mark of distinction instead of a mark of shame. Demian reasoned that Cain was "superior" to the normal man, and was therefore ostracized by everyone else, leading them to create stories about him. once again, could be very wrong with this summary.
In Limbus Company, Demian is an extremely powerful being. I think he's the strongest character I've seen so far in the story. He only shows for a brief second, and then vanishes. Nevertheless, I can see a parallel in that Demian in the book believes that Cain was ostracized for his "superiority". Demian in Limbus Company, bears the same mark, and it's clear, he is definitely more superior than the average human. In terms of firepower, at least, but there are moment in the story where Demian clearly shows that he is much more wiser than his years, and can see, hear, and understand things that others cannot. Possibly adding onto that idea of superiority?
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Shooot I wanted to talk about the characters but I realize talking abut the world is probably more important first. đđđ
I also realize for the most part for now, I'm just summarizing. Well, that's fine. Because when I post later theories and thoughts, I'd like to have a stable base so people understand what I am talking about (if anyone reads ofc)
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Whew, these posts are gonna be some long ones, but that's what happens when it comes to speaking to audiences that aren't familiar with the subject. Context before analysis, yeah?
In today's info stuff about Limbus Company: The World! (I realize that's a jojo's refrence but that's fine) I could also talk about magic systems too but idk if I wanna fit that into an already long post that's gonna be coming in.
I put them in an order in which I thought the writing had good enough flow
For this post, there should be no (major) story spoilers. Only stuff that would be considered lore as it is talked about in the game or introduced in past games. Just going to spoiler everything tho to condense stuff.
World
Tone and Basic Setting
I should have added this to my premise. But instead, Iâll add it here. Maybe both areas?
The tone is quite obviously a dark one. Inside the city is a sci-fi urban supercomplex where corporate companies rule all, and the people are run over and over for monetary gain so the companies can get more powerful while they put the idea of human life on the backburner. Outside is a polluted post-apocalyptic wasteland that houses nothing but monsters. Life just sucks wherever you go.
In exchange tho, nearly everyone you see will be wearing suits, and that stuff is pretty drippy ngl.
The City (and Outskirts) - The Main Location of Story
Wings - Those Who Hold PowerThe main location in which the story takes place. A superurban place. Itâs standard that sci-fi stories take place within cities. Though it is interesting to see so far how much every district within the cities differs from one another. There are 26 districts (1 for each letter in the latin alphabet) and The City is quite large⊠I think itâs around maybe⊠250 km/150 miles in diameter? Each district has their own culture and customs, and itâs usually recommended to read up on them before traveling into a new district. There are also taboos. Taboos of a district are punishable by death. These taboos can greatly vary, and most are probably not morally sound, and more pointed towards what the Wing of the district wants.
What is interesting is on the map, we only see 25 districts, but they mention that there are 26 Wings.
I originally thought the city was landlocked, but as it turns out, it is not. Which is an interesting touch I will talk about later.
The area outside of the city is like a wasteland and polluted. Quite postapocalyptic. Monsters and the unwanteds of the world roam here
Lobotomy Corporation - A Once Great Wing with a Powerful LegacyEach district is controlled by a Wing. A Wing is simply a term for one of the 26 biggest conglomerates that has control over a district. Naturally, there are also the 26 most powerful forces within the city. While each Wing has their own, actual name (ex. Lobotomy Corporation) sometimes they are referred to the district they are in primary control of. Example: Lobotomy Corporation is in charge of District 11, or district L, so they could be referred to as L Corp.
Of course, Wings do not only operate in their own district. They are likely to have branches in other districts to carry out their goals. They are a business after all.
I am not familiar with the process of a normal corporation becoming a Wing, but I do know that when a Wing falls (and it happens every now and then) itâs a terrible thing. Especially for the inhabitants of the district, and the Wingâs employees. The district quickly turns into a power vacuum filled with chaos and death with the main authority gone. There is no guarantee of safety for anyone in that district. Many employees are made to fend for themselves.
Singularities - Special Reality Defying TechÂLobotomy Corporation is one of the more recent fallen wings. In order to prevent its enemies from stealing their tech, they decided to bury all of their branches underground and seal them off. I didnât play any previous games in this world such as LCorp or Library of Runia, but I presume itâs fall was so sudden and devastating, that employees were not given any sort of heads up, many were trapped underground with nearly no resources to survive.
Currently, the seat for Wing of District 11 (L District) is still in the air, and companies are competing to be crowned upon it.
They are responsible for the creation of Abnormalities and E.G.O. via their Singularity, Cogito.
Abnormalities - Monsters (SCPs) of L CorpA Singularity is a unique, specific technology that is so powerful, it breaks known laws of physics. Every Wing has their own Singularity, accompanied with what may be considered âsemi-singularitiesâ
Almost if not all Singularities create human suffering. It may rely on it as fuel, or it may be exploited for it to continue happening.
Lobotomy Corpâs singularity was Cogito, a substance to allow the human subconsciousness develop into physical form. Thatâs how things like Abnormalities became real.
The Nests and the Backstreets - Distinct Separations[size=150] in Every District.[/size]Not a very well known term in the world, as it was primarily used by Lobotomy Corp and kept under wraps. To keep it simple. What are abnormalities? You know SCP? Yeah. Thatâs what they basically are. But instead of the Secure-Contain-ProtectâŠ
You see, L Corp was the biggest energy supplier in the city. Its primary source of extracting energy and Enkephalin was from abnormalities. Creatures created by the human mind and consciousness. I havenât looked into how they are exactly created yet, but I read something somewhere about them being âpulled outâ of a sea of consciousness. L Corpâs Singularity, Cogito, or something of the sort??
Now that L Corp has fallen though, many of the buried branches are in disarray. Abnormalities have breached containment, and are roaming the facilities now. Unfortunately for us, the Golden Bough was something that Lob Corp was storing too. So we gotta deal with their monsters in addition to opposing factions.
Iâm getting the feeling if I played the past two games that are in this universe, I would know a lot more. But at the same time, it feels like Limbus Company was designed to draw in new audiences, I hope Iâll be fine on lore.
ÂOh, so you think the Wing will protect you no matter where you are in the district? Wrong! They only care about the people in the Nest. The Nests are the headquarters of the Wing and the surrounding areas, basically. Itâs where the elite live, and where the most resources are placed when it comes to ensuring safety. The Backstreets are considered dangerous regions of the district, and they stretch throughout the district like veins. The Backstreets are likely to have different cultures from their Nest counterparts, despite being in the same district. In addition, organizations, or Syndicates, control local areas of the Backstreets.
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Ooph where am I gonna put my thoughts now when I'm doing these writings?
Eh, I'll just blend them
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I didn't bring any art supplies with me on my trip đ
I regret it. Not even any traditional things really.
I would like to practice fundamentals and stuff. I've been also thinking about basic animation.
I wonder for the day when I'll be able to draw exactly what is in my mind without having to like, fight against whatever force that doesn't want me to do that yk?
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I think I've decided to revise my approach to this Limbus Company activities. It's pretty behind the scenes but I'm thinking of just tossing all the basic lore on the homethread, and then afterwards, I'll start theory crafting or whatever I do, and then structure things in future posts with links to my original explanations and such later.
Originally I was going to do some in tandem stuff, like give lore and then place theories down, but I think talking about lore first is fine and dandy
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I've gotten to the point where I'm just sitting on a stack of writing and thinking about when to post it.
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Uh ohhh
I kinda forgor this place for a bit because I was playing Baldur's Gate 3 uh ohhh
And my sleep schedule is now messed up because I got back from traveling and decided to sleep at an unreasonably late time instead of a normal time to reset my sleep schedule uh ohhh
At least Baldur's Gate 3 is really fun.
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It's always good to find a game you enjoy
Did you have fun in your travels?
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Yea. Running a Warlock.
I got to see new places and culture and all that stuff.
But I actually was able to explore writing as a possible hobby way more than I expected. I write do write, but I never really sat down and just, you know, write for hours (except for essays)
You know, a big part for me when it comes to traveling is the learning new things about yourselfpart
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Hmmm. I don't wanna clutter up my homethread with all my writing... should I create a new writing thread?
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I guess so. I'll probably continue my Limbus Company stuff there if I ever decide to post it. I mean like, the stuff is done, but I'm sitting on the fence when it comes to posting it or not.
Because not only every time I write that stuff, I end up wanting to edit it and update it, but I also do kinda want to explore more content so I can have a more definitive understanding on the world than I do right now.
Totally random, but I do remember being nervous posting art for the first time, back on the wiki. I presume that will be similar for my creative writing endeavors.
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Time wrote:
Because not only every time I write that stuff, I end up wanting to edit it and update it, but I also do kinda want to explore more content so I can have a more definitive understanding on the world than I do right now.
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There are just too many things that just isn't known about the world.
There are so many questions and theories that I see, that oftentimes I just have to stop and rethink my perspective on topics quite often.
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Bro I just found another thing that changes my current theories and leading questions đ
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I would love to read your writing, whether you post it on your homethread or on another thread! We do have a section for writing specifically, so you could make a thread there if you want.Â
Like I mentioned earlier, maybe you can date your writings about Limbus and then in new writings you can put what has changed and why, etc.Â
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Hmmm, you do have a point there yes. I shall do that. Thanks.
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A horrible, horrible, embarrassing memory that was repressed within my mind emerged as I was writing this late night. I had to stop writing and cradle my forehead in my hands over the impact.
I cannot believe I am history repeating itself (or me repeating my past self).