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[GGaD!Marie-Corinne]
It's a bruh moment for sure but mostly I have an urge to wring Kyle and Lyle xD (*vague threatening wringing motions*)
Galaxian's criteria for revival are a bit unclear but I can say for sure that the moral alignments of the group in general are not as cut-and-clear as one might think, especially since some of the members of the group don't reside in their base. We'd probably have to talk a little bit more specifically on her circumstances if you wanted to go that route, but honestly as long as her personality wouldn't detract from the group, it could totally work out in my eyes. Plus there's the component of him having known Fallon in the past, which coincides with how his domains interact with him in ways that he might be aware or unaware of. In any case I'm already happy with you adding in Laurie to the group, or else it'd literally be a one-person show (or group) for me, so I'm thankful for your graciousness on that front.
I'm also a pretty big fan of the AU being able to show different sides of characters, especially for Sunny and Archer on my end so far. As always, I'm glad that it gives both of us an opportunity to work on characters in ways like what you described.
[Grail Wars for Us]
Have you seen Roland's portrayals thus far? I was kinda wondering what your opinion was of the jokes surrounding him 'cause I'm not too familiar with his story myself xD.
Yay chaos.
I mean I've grailed him to level 100 and maxed out his skills and got him to Bond Level 10. Only in the context of F/GO though.
Tbh idk how to feel about Zhuge Liang's portrayal in F/GO xD the dude barely exists and I feel conflicted about it (but also it's hilarious lol)
Oh okay, there are a bunch of Servants I don't know about in any case, but at least this time it didn't prove to be the case. xD
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[Martin]
:') That plan was from back when I hadn't developed Martin mucho, so now, with years of thinking and stuff, I would want to either edit or refine the idea to fit how I currently see my character. First of all I think there should be some buildup to the event, cause Martin can't just go around like that just because. It's not in-character. Anyways, if/when the idea does happen, I would like it to be at a crucial moment of the plot. I can't have Martin getting separated from the TMG for no reason at all before that, but it also has to be at a point in which his going off alone is enough to separate his fate from the Guild's. So a lot of things to consider lol. I'm horrible at creating and pacing plot hahan't.
I wonder if GGaD!Time even remembers Martin xD I know on my part that Martin admired Amadeus but from afar, and that Martin didn't get killed on purpose but instead got used like a human shield and died. Which reminds me. For a long time I've been trying to figure out exactly, how traumatized is Martin by his death? I think that can bring interesting development or additions to his character. It's not something I had thought of initially but I feel like it's something important.
Nooo poor Kiaane ): tbh I really do imagine Martin doing that (infuriating) thing where he goes off on his own and doesn't tell anyone what he's going to do so "they don't worry about him"
[Kiaane and Ryoo]
*Eagerly consumes the headcanons and is still hungry for more*
I'm definitely going to draw art of these characters as soon as I get a bit more free time. I will, mark my words. I don't care if I get the appearance descriptions wrong, I will try so hard.
[Neka images]
Okay then, I'll take your word for it. But I think it's very amusing to watch so I'll make more Paymon images one of these days.
No, he might actually care, cause if Laurie (female) is into femenine stuff, then Laurel (male) would go for the opposite. I think he might not mind using his complete name, but if going for a nickname he'd go for something completely separate from the original lol.
[Candy Apples]
Good to know I'm not the only crazy person out there who despises candy apples :D
I think apple slices would work really well. Earlier today I just happened to see a Pin about that lol, vertically-cut slices of apple dipped in either candy or chocolate. I feel they would be comfortable to eat, because the flavor isn't the problem.
[Chat Topics]
I must have forgotten some so it falls to you to add more *points directly at you*
[Food]
I guess people can eat whatever they want, I don't care that much imo, but that wasn't what I meant xD plus they say there's areas of Peru where people do raise cats to eat them so. lol.
I love cuy but I'm not interested in eating animals that have been raised as pets.
Haha I'm having mixed reactions at seeing Peeps but I really want to try one now?
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[Assassin & related]
I think I'll have to organize my thoughts better in order to ask accuraten questions, but thanks for the info. My curiosity comes mostly from the fact that I knew nothing about this development cause last time we talked about Assassin and her Master was a long time ago and if I'm not mistaken we had a completely different idea for the thing back then. So, that's why I'm requesting information lol. I'll make a note of asking you about this through chat.
Also I wanna see art please do show :0
I'm checking my notes and it says that at the time of her legend Assassin was around 19 or a little less :D we love young death
YES she has a cute face, of course she does! I know she'll get obssessed with selfies if she gets her hands on a phone lol.
Lol it's similar to Artoria's how? Artoria's hair is more yellow, and in any case Assassin's hairstyle bears the most similarity to Ereshkigal's. (plus we can't forget Dion lol Sir Kay lol)
[Corinne]
Yeah I want to punch their younger versions for being like that, but their current selves are actually suffering quite a bit. Kyle got cursed by a sadistic demigod, and Lyle has some sort of delayed poison effect that put him in a coma iirc. I wonder what would have happened if Corinne never died in the first place. (The only thing I can say for sure is that if she were alive, Franz would be dead).
I'd be glad to have an alternative and I'd be happy to talk about it too, I just don't want to make a decisión right now out of impulse. I'm sure she'd be a fun person to have in the group.
Laurie is happy she can be with the Alternate, and I'm very happy I can interact with that group xD they're so much fun.
[Roland]
I don't know much about F/GO Roland to be honest, I haven't looked up much about him at all. I just know he's a Saber (I expected him to be a Berserker) and I'm very pleased that his ascensions have him with less clothing the higher level he gets because that's lore-accurate (but I think he should've been shirtless in his third stage), but I don't remember the images very well rn. That's all I know lol.
My impression of Roland comes from two stories, the main one being one titled "Orlando Furioso" (I think it keeps its title in English idk) and the other one is the story of Roland and Olivier.
For the first one I can summarize it like this: Roland fell in love with a maiden and then had to go fight a war, but when he came back she had thought him dead and was going to marry someone else. Roland believed that she had been taken away against her own will, and so got depressed and lovesick and tried to find her to no avail. In doing this, he disregarded his own wellbeing and ended up looking a little bit crazy. I don't remember the chronology of this right now, but at one point Roland finds out that the girl he loved actually loved the other man back because he found their names and poems written on a tree. He basically goes insane after this, at this point he takes off all his clothes and stays naked for the rest of his tale, and he searches for his former love far and wide, eventually chancing upon her near a beach and finding her riding a horse. Seeing a crazy man like that was something the girl was VERY scared of, so she used a magic ring to become invisible and escape, leaving her horse behind. And Roland would never see her again no matter how much he searched (the story does say the girl and her husband lived a happy life after that) but he took the horse and rode it to death. Now here's the interesting part. In his madness, he was like imposible to reason with, but he did do good things (like helping people fend off robbers and invaders) in uh extreme ways lol. That's why I think he should be a Berserker.
Enter Astolfo! Hearing that his good friend Roland had gone insane, he takes it upon himself to find a cure. In his travels for this he ends up visiting a lot of kingdoms and solving their problems because of how heroic he was, in the process befriending a ton of people and getting a lot of artifacts as gifts and eventually gets to this place where nobody could eat because a curse caused mythical beings to take the food away. And he came up with a plan to solve that, and in return, the king of that place told him that in the moon he could find riches nobody knew of. I don't remember the details right now but Astolfo basically tamed a mythical beast (his mount in Fate) and flew it all the way to the moon, where not only did he find a WHOLE ton of riches, but special cups that held the lost intelligence of everyone in the world, from beggars to kings. Now, a funny little thing is that Astolfo was known in the Paladins for his folly, as he was a little eccentric. So, on the moon, he finds his cup of lost intelligence and inhales it back. I'm happy Fate is lore-accurate to this in his Noble Phantasm being the most effective when the moon is full.
Anyways, he found a really big cup that held Roland's intelligence! He received permission to bring it back to Earth and he leaves his mythical animal mount somewhere so people wouldn't see it, and goes to look for Roland. He finds Roland defending a place (I forgot specifics again) completely naked and with just the weapons he picked up from the dead, killing friend and foe alike with the bodies of the enemies piling up everywhere. And he was the only one there, a one-man defense against a whole army (I think he was fighting Ottomans I don't remember very well) and doing it well. Astolfo cries at seeing this because of course he's sad to see his best friend like that, and carefully makes his way to where Roland is, forcing him to inhale back his lost intelligence with the help of others.
Miraculously, this is all it takes for Roland to go back to normal! He was very ashamed of what he'd done and asked for clothes and that's basically where that tale ends, with a few more details mentioned that I don't remember right now.
I'm so rereading the story later today.
The second story is about Roland and Olivier and I don't remember it very well but it can be summarized further. The tale says they both were the best of friends, inseparable and they wouldn't do anything without the other. They climbed the ranks in the army and became Paladins of Charlemagne! But the important part comes here, that one day when they were grown up, Roland did something rash and led his army right into an ambush from the enemy. They were outnumbered and fought valiantly, but he believed that they could hold out long enough for reinforcements to arrive. I forget how exactly it's mentioned earlier in the story but Roland has a horn-instrument-thing that was used to call for reinforcements, and it's special in ways I forget (I think few people could use it). Olivier kept urging him to use it but he just wouldn't. Eventually, Olivier gets fatally wounded and tries to use Roland's horn but can't. Roland, seeing his best friend die and he himself very wounded, finally caves in and uses his horn one, two times. Charlemagne in the distance hears the sound and leads his army with haste as he knew Roland didn't use his horn often at all, so he must be in a very dire situation. While they're heading towards the battle area, they hear the call again, weaker and weaker each time.
And that's all I remember. I know Olivier died in battle, and I know Charlemagne and his troops managed to win the battle and the war, but I don't remember if Roland survived the battle or not.
So yeah, he's quite the hero! Along with Astolfo, Roland is part of my childhood heroes haha.
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[Roland]
I'm trying to find the book in which I have the story of Roland and Oliver (I misspelled it as Olivier ealier I'm sorry) but I cant. It's because I think I might've made a mistake in my summary, especially because I think Roland actually dies in that story. With that correction, the end of the story would go like this:
Roland is wounded before Oliver, and because he feels he's going to die he asks Oliver to blow his special horn for him because he can't do it anymore. That explains why the sound was faint. And then Oliver dies too in the story, iirc he got impaled by someone and he died next to Roland.
Other important details about this story and the other one:
- Roland's sword is named Durandal and it's supposed to be holy and unbreakable, so much that when he was about to die Roland tried to destroy it by bashing it against a rock but it wouldn't break so he threw it away to keep the enemy from claiming it.
- Roland's army got ambushed because of a traitor I think, not because of bad decisions. Aside from that, Roland didn't use his horn because he thought it would be cowardly to ask for help while the battle still hadn't finished. Like many legends, specific accounts of this differ.
- The girl Orlando was in love with was named Angelica, and iirc she was saved by someone related to Bradamante (I can't remember her legend right now so I don't have many other details to give) which is the reason why Orlando met her in the first place considering that Angelica was a princess of a faraway kingdom
- Astolfo helped the king who couldn't eat by driving the mythical beings (harpies) to hell lol
- My mom tells me Roland was Charlemagne's nephew, I didn't remember this fact. I just brought up this topic with her because there are so many details I can't remember right now haha.
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I'm sorry I was rereading your post and I realized you never asked for Roland's story lol I don't know why i interpreted it as you wanting to know more
*Nervous sweating*
Well I hope that reading that is at least interesting lol
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[Martin]
Idk, I'm pretty horrible at plot myself, so I won't be giving any advice. I also am not familiar with what Time wants to achieve with his character's moral alignment and all that. My personal headcanon was that the murder of Martin was like a point of no return but idk, it doesn't seem that characteristic now that I think about it. (The headcanon was from a few years back anyways, and you know how those tend to be lol.)
The Guild's reaction to their deaths is kinda weird. Iirc the most extreme reaction so far has actually been Ignas in reaction to Kiaane, and even then he kinda just gave up (which is hilarious for sure but not that sensical xD). I'd imagine most of them would have PTSD so idk why it's mostly business as usual. For Martin, maybe it depends on the context of what was happening and how painful the death was (I am sorry I have to phrase it that way). Like y'know, instant disintegration would probably be pretty different from a slower death. Though I do reckon that he'd be able to figure out what happened in most cases, so...I don't really know. I'm just mostly remembering that (iirc) Martin's father was the one to use him as a shield or something? Idk, I mean, I wanna wrangle him either way, so what's the difference in one decision of his, right? (:
This conversation is mostly reminding me that it's canon that Kiaane has panic issues lol. I mean, since they can't keep tags on people, it's kinda their own fault when things like that happen. But also it's not really their fault per se, if that makes sense. xD
[Kiaane and Ryoo]
NOOO I DIDN'T WRITE THOSE DOWN YET >:'(
Okay, but you'll have to show me. I'm serious. As a side note, aside from Kiaane, I am curious how your take on Ryoo is in relation to her being the daughter of Aereon and all, so yeah. (I know you did a piece of her before, but honestly they don't look related is the thing so xD)
More headcanons:
-I like to imagine that Kiaane has a half-knit scarf that Ryoo made that they sometimes wear. The context is me imagining that she had a knitting phase so xD (which btw is connected with Aereon lol). She went to write stuff before finishing it and so never really ended up completing it since she moved on to other projects, and she was gonna throw it away after finding it, but Kiaane happens to like soft things and somehow managed to stop her from doing so. They honestly do not understand that it's incomplete; they don't wear it often because they subconsciously decide not to wear things that they like. Anyhow, this possibly-not-canon scarf is what I was referencing in that Christmas lights thread, with them being almost entangled in yarn (which btw they used because they saw Ryoo using it once or twice and thus feels more familiar with them, in addition to their tendency to overcomplicate certain procedures).
-I also like to imagine that Kiaane hoards pens, and so they have some pens of Ryoo's that they kept and managed to fix after she initially threw them away. They used these pens to learn to write, though in the present they mostly just have them stored somewhere only they know. The pens don't look very pretty since Kiaane doesn't have a very good aesthetic sense in general, but if you were to actually use them, you'd find that their ink colors are rather varied, unlike the originals.
-I also like to imagine that Ryoo randomly gifted Kiaane a fountain pen one time (not really for any particular occasion) and they have never used it. They like fountain pens though, and are able to write rather well with them in the present. (In the past they killed a few pens by pressing too hard and destroying the nibs, but they managed to learn lol.)
-These two would 100% raid all the jars of chocolate chips (they just alternate through being the one who has no impulse control at the moment whatsoever and eventually all the jars are gone. They're great partners in crime, though whether it's because both of them have forgotten said crimes by the next day or are really great at keeping secrets is unknown)
-For some reason I imagined Kiaane's occasional tendency to snack as coming from Ryoo. It's not really so much "I don't know why" on Kiaane's end as it is on Ryoo's since I don't really know how she acts when it comes to food and stuff like this. But for Kiaane it does make sense for someone to have influenced them on wanting to eat more often (even if just as a habit), since usually you can see they just drink coffee and skip meals. They were rather frugal with food in the past (and somewhat in the present as well) and idk, it just makes sense for them to keep snacking because they once did it with someone else (and maybe because doing it with someone else made them somewhat more comfortable with the notion of actually eating a bit more food than what is needed, even if it's more of a conditioned habit and more of a context-specific mannerism rather than a changed way of thinking)
I really did make a few headcanons based solely on food and soft things lmiao
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[Neka Images]
Are you sure repeatedly exposing me to Paymon images won't make my reaction calmer and less entertaining to you? but also YES
Okay, so Laurel (Male) would have a mustache? :D
Tbh Manai just calls him the Japanese equivalent of "Laurel" and he accepts it xD by the time he can translate it it is too late
Honestly this possibility is interesting to consider since I kinda envision Laurel (Male) being closer to Nagesh,,, like technically what is the difference? Idk xD anyways it's kinda funny how the Alternate go in terms of femininity and masculinity tbh (since it's a topic I've dedicated some thought to in the past)
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I skipped some topics due to not knowing what to say xD sorry I am running on 3-4 hours of sleep. Not peak condition for sure. my mind is mostly demanding Ryoo/Kiaane art and also repeating "CORNBREAD" at max volume
[Assassin]
Yeah, you were inactive while I was considering sharing the art and thinking about updating you, and you know me, I overthink everything after the impulse wears off. So,,, xD
Maybe we'll be able to come up with jokes for these two lol, that seems to get us started (on at least talking about them :'D) I honestly dunno how well I can convey Ambryll by telling. They are very much someone I can convey better through showing, though how much better is still up in the air somewhere lol.
Too late, the art is in a box somewhere now and I have to keep it there. xD I have to do most of my art digitally nowadays, and I don't even have a program for it. I decided that storing and taking pictures of scratch paper would require more work.
How did their ages magically align lol. we do
Ambryll would be glad to buy her a phone, as long as she doesn't take pictures of them (at all or too often depending on their relationship). They'd also be happy with taking pictures of her if she wants too btw. for some reason that reads like them being a simp but it's actually just them being nice?? Where are my distinction standards xDD
I read somewhere that Artoria's hair is described as looking like stardust or something, and idk, Assassin's hair seems to fit that best in my impressions. It is a bit sharper than what I'd imagine from that description, but Dion's hair is corn and Helge's is...idk, it's either too striking or not pretty enough lol. (As you can see, we were basing our interpretations off very different aspects xD.)
[Corinne]
I'm sorry but for Lyle all I can imagine is that one F/GO video (don't ask me to find it, I couldn't) where a Servant does the flinch reaction from being cursed on repeat to the point where they look like they're dancing, so I'm imagining him doing that but while being comatose on a bed.
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[Roland]
Okay, then I won't spoil it for you. xD
I don't mind reading! I actually really like long posts most of the time lol. Though you probably already know that.
Wait, so "[Roland] rode it to death" as in he rode the horse to its death or he rode the horse to his own death? This is important, yes.
Roland a lil cuckoo for sure, what else can I say. xD Bruh.
Please, Astolfo making Roland inhale the lost intelligence cup thingy is just making me think "drugs done right" fjsidkofjsodkfjo
Also idk if the friendship between Oliver and Roland was exclusive or whatever as "best friends" go but if it was I feel so bad for Astolfo, imagine going to the Moon for this guy who you think is your best friend and watching him slaughter your comrades when he doesn't even consider you his best friend. I sure hope this isn't the case but xD
Was Roland's horn the same as Astolfo's horn thingy in Apocrypha, or nah?
Are you familiar with Charlemagne in Fate? I heard he's a fan favorite xD.
I am familiar with Durendal. Iirc it's canonically possessed by Roland, Hektor, and Mandricardo (though Mandricardo doesn't have the real version with him all the time).
The familial relation fact makes a certain something in F/GO a bit more cursed but I am going to just write it off as a myth thing. :')
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Am leaving the Thaohal-related topics for later because there's something I need to think about first.
[Neka images]
Lol exposure therapy and eventually you just won't react at all xD. It's kinda hard to find image makers that fit Paymon tbh and rn I shouldn't be searching for them either, so that will go on the to-do list.
He might like one but I don't think he physically would be able to have one lol. But I mean it more as a guideline, because I definitely think he'd keep the long hair and that's something that can be considered femenine. Idk really lol if I wanted to seriously genderbend one of my characters there are many things I have to think of.
No way, they can't be that similar. They're different characters xD maybe similar in height (would Laurel [male] be taller than Nagesh if Laurie [female] is already quite tall?) and uh idk what else lol.
[Assassin]
If I post images of Assassin will that make you reconsider? :3c
Yeah tbh for this being a "serious" AU and all that we joke about many things. But it's not a bad starting point, except that to joke about something you need to know both characters and in your case well I guess you do know Assassin while I only know her xD
Yay, Assassin with phone :D I feel that in sillier AUs of the AU she'd be really cool lol.
Lol with that standard you could totally say something like "Ambryll says good morning and thank you to her every day (but not because they simp for her, they're just being polite)"
What the heck is that description xD I mean sure it's poetic but I don't think it first Artoria's hairstyle at all lol. Assassin's hair is definitely fluffy, light more than anything (I can imagine it like long strands of like pet fur for some reason but this is a VERY cursed comparison).
Anyways when I progress with the F/GO-style battle sprite I'm doing for Assassin you should be able to see what my current design for her is like.
[Roland]
Well at least I'm glad you enjoyed it xD I love reading too (I also love reading long posts) but I usually don't write long posts, so I was a bit worried there.
He rode the horse until it died, and after that he dragged the corpse with him (he was out of his mind by then) for several days. Then he tried to cross a river and he couldn't do it with the dead horse so he had to leave it.
Yeah he did literally go crazy lol, though at least he did good things Ig? He kinda became superhuman while crazy.
PLEASE 😭😭😭 how did my tale of my favorite heroes turn into "Astolfo and Roland do drugs" 😭😭😭 XDDD
I think the Paladins are supposed to be all good friends or something, I'm not very sure. I do know Roland and Oliver were inseparable (Oliver isn't mentioned in "Orlando Furioso") but Astolfo considered Roland close. And due to the ending of the tale, I can say for sure that Roland did think of Astolfo as a friend.
And fun fact: in the ending, it literally describes "Charlemagne marched back into the city with his army of bizarre paladins" and I find that so funny
It isn't the same horn. Astolfo's is another one that's said to be so loud that any enemies who heard it would be intimidated. I don't remember how he got it, but it was one of the things he gathered from his travels. Roland's horn was given to him by Charlemagne if memory doesn't fail me.
I know what he looks like but nothing else lol.
I need to check Mandricardo's tale because his name is REALLY familiar to me for some reason and yet I can't exactly pinpoint where I've heard it. I know I know something about him, I'm just not sure what that is.
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[Chat Topics]
Compiled what is probably a highly biased list of chat topics, though I won't be pasting it here because I am clearly out of my mind. It did incorporate what you mentioned in retrospect though so hopefully it isn't just "KIAANE AND MARTIN!!!!!" the next time I look at it.
[Neka Images]
It'll all just be internalized simping.
Rip, I'm sorry, I meant relationships-wise lol. He'd be closer to Nagesh. Bros.
[Assassin]
I mean you can certainly try (totally not me scheming to see Assassin pics lol)
The joking is a coping method before the trauma comes. Pre-coping. Also I would argue that I actually don't know Assassin very well at all; at most I could probably only guess. And I think I'd guess wrong most of the time.
There is a difference between a simp-fueled "Good morning" and "Thank you" and a simp-ly polite "Good morning" and "Thank you" on Ambryll's part but I don't know what it is.
I might mention btw that so far it looks like they are matching up again in Ways That I Like (capitalization used to add a more foreboding tone ig)
Oh, I think the simile is more related to texture (and possibly color) than style. Idk, I thought it was fitting? Artoria's hair is also fluffy in my eyes.
In any case, the comparison is better than the clanking of her armor being described as beautiful/like bells for sure xD. (Then again, I go with it when Kiaane wants to describe Ryoo as being like the morning dew [please don't overthink it btw], so maybe there's just a shared writing problem lol.) And also I described GGaD!Kiaane's hair as being like fox tails so you should be fine. You could judge me back if I judged you, at least in this particular aspect. xD
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[Roland]
That's it, he's irredeemable in my eyes. How dare he do that to that poor horse. I'm only partially kidding; we Chinese value horses a lot lol. As you might be able to see with Rider. I'm still trying to figure out if I should just make his Noble Phantasm a zoo.
Charlemagne marched back into the city with his army of weirdos.
For some reason I feel like there are at least 2 other horns I've heard referenced in Fate (outside of the cornucopia too)?? Anyways, I do remember Astolfo's horn having some role in Agartha now that I think about it, but there is just no other context in my mind otherwise because I forcefully forgot lol.
I somehow read Mandricardo as Mandricardowo.
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[Chat topics]
Okay lol, I trust you even if the list is biased. I like talking anyways.
I think I'll be available Saturday afternoon. As always I'll confirm if that's actually the case, but would you be available by then?
[Assassin]
Ask and you shall receive :D
Does that mean we're going to joke even more after the trauma :') also it's okay lol I'm pretty sure she's an easy character to understand, you'll see once we get to her thread. I am trying to hard to stop myself from infodumping on her and her lore and all (I don't want to spoil you but at the same time I also want to tell you stuff I think is interesting and the like xD) and so I'm thinking of what I can share about her without being a direct spoiler. For example, her story includes a quote of something she said and was recorded.
Lol simp and simp-ly
:eyes:
Okay... I guess we have different opinions on hair then xD.
*overthinks*
[Roland]
Tbh even if I wanted I don't think I can hond him accountable for many things he did while insane since he literally didn't have any reasoning ability then lol. There are a lot of other heroic aspects of his legend though. Like how he and Oliver became Paladins.
YEAH THAT'S WHAT THE AUTHOR BASICALLY SAID XDDDD and I love that because it means that the Paladins were interesting characters with their quirks and unique things :D
Haha I can't remember much right now. Also Agartha was so cursed imo I barely remember much of it other than being unspeakably happy at being with Astolfo and D'Eon.
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Totally forgot to include this in the category in which you mentioned it but I don't really know anything about Rider can I get info on him too please :D
According to my notes he comes right after Assassin so I have every right to be interested.
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[Martin]
I think for Time character details we'd have to contact Time directly so I am no conmment on that.
But I headcanoned that Martin was just really unlucky to be there. And yeah I did consider his father being the one (indirectly?) responsible for Martin's death, but also that sounds kinda horrible so I never decided on anything. It's not like current Martin has a high opinion of his dad anyways.
For Aereon I can excuse the whole thing sorta but for the rest I don't know. What I do know is that I really want to implement the idea somehow into Martin's character. More on that when I my ideas are a bit more solid, I guess. But I'll say I don't think it was a quick/instant death.
The topic sorta reminds me of one of my DRPU characters (Juno) who got tortured to death but actually was in a simulation all along, so when his real-life counterpart (Hera) was freed from the simulation, she developed an intense fear of prolongued pain and would instantly cave in to any requests if threatened with physical pain or torture. The last bit is relevant because she ended up having a role in a war thing and yeah she didn't want to be trusted with anything too important because she was afraid she wouldn't be able to keep secrets if threatened.
When can I give Kiaane a hug
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I am honestly not sure what my availability will be like because I have to steal my mom's computer now (and we both need to use it for various reasons lol). I do apologize if we can't talk soon. I've been alternating between being more calm and pretty much panicking over different things. These few months (possibly years) are gonna be quite stressful for me, both by themselves and with my tendency to overcomplicate/stress myself out over things. But I will try to talk with you as soon as I can (with the most emotional constancy that I can manage), please trust me on that.
[Assassin]
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That's really cool. Direct quotes from historical figures (and legendary ones) are always so cool. Also, no worries if you can't decide what to share; I'm the same way with my characters so xD. I'm content to wait for the showing component, even though sometimes I remember how long it might take to get to Assassin's thread and kinda go impatient momentarily. :')
[Roland]
That's true, and your way of thinking matches with the court of law. But also (just me being smart aleck-y again) different cultures do seem to have different ways of perceiving madness. In Chinese culture, in context similar to Roland's, suicide or becoming a monk is usually the way to go rather than a rampage (which sounds weird just said like that but it's associated with examples, please believe me xD).
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Oh yeah wanted to mention I'm currently at the library and that's why I can respond. I'm doing some errands today.
[Rider]
Of course, but that's a bit too general of a request. Could you give me more specific questions/points if possible? Like what is it that you want/need to know?
General overview:
Rider is probably most similar to his GGaD persona than my other Servant characters (all of their context tends to be very different), especially in the personality department even while taking into consideration the difference in context. The biggest difference is probably that he's better able to showcase his core character in comparison to GGaD, where he's under an incredible amount of duress and recently got cursed in his dreams for basically no reason other than existing. :-P His age is 14-16 (at least I currently think so) and he honestly just tries his best. He vibing. Anyways, he's probably closest to China's definition of a hero (I dunno how heroes are seen generally so I can't really conclude anything on that front), though he's kinda young even considering that.
His story is pretty simple, not really that well-known because it's limited within a cultural sphere of influence in addition to him not having a whole list of feats to back himself up. In combat, he also isn't that serious, both in terms of how he behaves and how big of a threat he poses. He still is unfairly talented when it comes to combat but because pwning his abilities/stats/etc. is fun, he's more balanced (imo) in comparison to other Heroic Spirits. My assessment would probably be that he's a decent Heroic Spirit, and he would probably just see himself as being average too. It doesn't really matter in his eyes though; like I said, he's just gonna try his best and try not to worry too much. Worrying, in his view, doesn't help too much unless someone really needs motivation.
Again, I think it's gonna take pretty long to get to his thread, so that's why I'm not worrying too much, but I think he's okay developed. I could definitely put in more work but that's implying I do any work in the first place. Anyways, let me know specifics I can focus on, if you would please. I'm kinda just grabbing at random information here otherwise. xD
(If you need his updated stats and stuff I can grab them, but I haven't solidified his skills and NP lol)
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Will finish my responses when I get home, sorry.
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[Martin]
Noted.
I don't think you'll be able to, but the offer is appreciated. :')
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Darn I should've taken the chance to chat earlier this week but ah well, if I've waited months, surely it won't be too different if I can wait some days. I'll be looking forward to this :3
I'm still mostly available in the evenings and nights, as you might've seen by my lastest activity on here. Sunday nights work pretty well for me too, so just let me know when you're feeling up to a chatn and can make it. I'll try my best to be there.
Also know, I'm willing to listen if you want to rant or anything. I can't do much from literally another continent and over the internet but if talking things out helps you ease the tension at least a bit then I'll be glad to be of assistance.
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[Assassin]
Tbh I don't know where (in my works) the line is drawn between cool and cringe XD but let's hope this at least makes some sense (help I'm second-guessing myself, thi dfhgkasgsldfgjñs)
Hey, at least you can be patient after a bit :') I have to distract myself or else I end up hyping myself up for something and then I realize I have to wait to actually see our characters in action and lol
[Roland]
I'm trying to figure out what to say because I don't know if you're judging him jokingly or just judging him or if you didn't like his story at all.
So I don't know if I should provide more context or defend Roland with my opinion.
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[Rider]
I don't think I really need to know anything right now, but oh boy do I want to know more too lol.
So I may be misinterpreting this but by any chance do you happen to enjoyin bullying Rider... *raises eyebrow half-jokingly*
Hey, that general overview just happens to be what I was looking for :D so thankee. He's so young though xD (is he cute?). I do wonder how he's going to interact with Nyoko, so I'm thinking about that even though at this stage it's all theory and maybes.
Okay, I'm tryina think of something relevant to ask but my brain is just saying unimportant stuff like "favorite color, favorite food" and the likeso hmm, as a more relevant question, do you consider there's a word/concept/theme for Rider and/or his legend?
Oh and could I know if he has a horse or what's his mount :3 or is that a secret?
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[Kiaane and Ryoo]
I have been nourished by the headcanons they're so tasty~
Yes I definitely will show. Once I figure out how to draw chibi Kiaane (should I use their form description and de-age them a bit?). And I don't know if Eliza has changed up Ryoo's design any since last time I checked so I might have to ask about that.
I've been thinking about the physical appearance relationship and I think Ryoo might have taken more after Elio's genes (because of the brown hair) than Aereon's, while Ignas did get more of his mom's genes. But then I remember that I think Time said something like there was physical appearance variation in the TMG because of the magic affecting them or something? I could be remembering very wrongly but xD that's all I have. We'll see how Ryoo turns out in newer pieces but I can't guarantee anything either because I haven't drawn GGaD Aereon for a while either.
Food and soft things are the best things to make headcanons out of. I approve of all of these and especially the scarf thing because it's so cute owo please make it canon.
Tbh the chocolate chip thing reminded me of a post I once did wondering if people in the TMG put some sort of protection spell or something on the stored food in the kitchen because they have children with magic who could stealthily take stuff they weren't supposed to (of course adults can also raid the kitchen it's just that when one thinks about someone stealing sweets/snacks usually teenagers or kids come to mind) and if this was the case then I can imagine Ryoo making an elaborate plan to get around the protection just so she can get the chocolate :3
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In the F/DA thread I asked about birdsong because I wanted to have a little bird perch on Caster's hand on head :3. May I do that? I just thought it'd be really cute xD
And, are you enjoying the Yvonne thread so far? :D
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[Chat]
Thanks as always for being so considerate of me. I really wish I could chat more with you guys, but there's definitely some component of me being busy and being really bad at showing up for spontaneous things. And thanks for the offer as per usual, though I think you have enough on your own plate without having to be burdened with me ranting, ha.
Hoping we can chat later today! If not then I'll try to respond here regardless (with okay response quality though I can't make any guarantees on that). Have a nice day.
[Assassin]
No help can be provided since I also second-guess myself. :')
[Lancer]
Surprise! I realized that outside of Lancer, Archer, and Berserker we've tagged everyone in this recent chat xD. Time to tag Lancer? For some reason I wanted to ask what kind of cookies is her favorite. Also aesthetically what kind of wood is her favorite too. (It is 3 A.M. lol, if you can't tell.)
(Also, don't worry about tagging Archer and Berserker, not doing so is funnier this way since I like ignoring Archer and bullying Berserker's Master with him being the conduit. :-P)
[Roland]
Lemme just get it out there and say that it's just me being insensitive (though not intentionally so...I mean, hopefully not intentionally so). Everyone has different preferences when it comes to favorites, and anyhow it's hard for me (and maybe people in general?) to like someone with just a summary. I'm sure you could roast my preferences for favorites to the stratosphere and back if you wanted, though obviously you wouldn't do that. "You just like hot guys" sums up like 95% of the list, for example.
Anyhow, basically just do whatever you want. Also roast me if I'm making you feel bad 'cause even though it wasn't intentional per se, it's still a jerk thing to do. Overall I don't really have an opinion on Roland because it's hard for me to form strong opinions on characters through summaries, and I was really just trying to joke (in a more deadpan way) on elements of his story and how certain concepts in stories tend to be conveyed, but I probably did it wrong so. Any roasting back is totally justified.
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[Rider]
Okay xD.
Totally not. I just like making it so that it's harder for him to win. And also to exist. So basically the correct description is that I relish bullying him
Sometimes I forget that I keep making child soldiers myself and have no right to criticize Athena. On his cuteness, Rider's someone who younger me stressed is handsome, so I'm now stuck with it even though I cannot design him. If you're wondering: Saber is the cute one, Berserker is the handsome one, and Archer is...actually I am not gonna give his other personas gloating fuel, so never mind.
Anyways, it's honestly admirable that you can imagine how these pairs will interact because I pretty much just Cannot. I have some ideal concepts for their relationships, of course, but honestly I keep getting held back by the fact that I don't know your characters very well (either in canon or in this verse, usually both). For Rider I think he and Nyoko should be able to get along. Honestly the "get along" component is okay theoretically for all 4 pairs involving my Master characters except for Berserker, who is so dang hard to imagine things for lol.
Just curious, you do know Rider's full name, right? And his relationship with other characters of mine? I know he hasn't shown up in-roleplay at all but I was wondering if you knew enough to be able to imagine what he's like and how he'd act. Like maybe he fulfills a trope in your eyes or something, idk. If you'd like to give some thoughts on this, I'd be interested in referencing them for further development.
And answers to those inquiries (spoilered so that you can make up your own ideas without opening this first):
-Galaxian--His favorite color is red
-He has lots of favorite foods, it depends on the category. For instance, he likes noodles [with a boiled egg and lettuce and soup], corn, and also pastries/desserts in general. He'd like milk bread. Tbh he's mostly just grateful for food in general, so it's less a matter of "favorites" and more "he likes these maybe slightly more than others, but it's really hard to tell."
-I've thought about this for hours but don't think I can come up with a single thing that really encapsulates him, sorry. I know this is a very disappointing response,,, lol. But if anything would work, I think it would probably be a Chinese value. 忠 (loyalty) is one that I can think of. And 破空 (The Breaking of Sky) might as well. In English, "Render" is a word that I associate with him, though without context that's probably weird lol.
-He has multiple. The joke is that he's protective of his mounts (logically so, I say as I remember Iskandar's horses all being Excalibured), so instead of riding them he shields them or (in the majority of cases) tries to have them stay dematerialized even while in combat. It's not the smartest decision combat-wise but I honestly cannot judge lol. (But these mounts can appear on their own given they have enough mana, though more than one appearing at once will put strain on Nyoko...and I was gonna say "they probably will do so during important moments" but honestly I can see them appearing to steal food lol. Oops.)
-He's good with animals btw, though I think you could probably tell. xD
These questions are fun, keep them coming if you'd like. I'm conflicted on if they reveal too much (even though objectively [at 3 A.M.]I don't think this is really any info??) but xD. I probably can't maximize their potential showing Rider and his animal companions, so why not. Again, just let me know what you'd like to know.
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[Ryoo & Kiaane]
Yay :D
I relate to trying to draw them in chibi. Their real selves are weirdly hard to draw with each other idk. For Kiaane do whatever feels right to you. De-aging is weird for them because honestly idk how physical age progression works for them (not to mention hairstyle preference changes and whatnot), but ultimately as long as you enjoy drawing them I'll be super happy. :D
I love bringing up the Thaohal genes, the entire premise is so funny to me lol. Mostly I was talking about facial features and stuff (basically what I was talking about while sketching Ryoo and Ignas the last time), since their hair colors are some kind of lost cause at this point without the magic rationalization. Basically their faces don't look alike to Aereon. xD
I'll see about making it canon, but before that Eliza has to show me art. There is no agreement on the topic btw in case you get your hopes up too high, and also yes this is me making highly unfair barters xD (also don't tell her to read this thread or else my extortion scheme will fail)
The Thaohal Mage Guild: We train our members to be competent so they can hold their own in the most dangerous of situations tactically and strategically! One day we will be the strongest guild in all of Forengard!
Ryoo and Kiaane, using their smarts and magic capabilities cooperatively in order to bypass the guild kitchen's security capabilities for some chocolate pieces:
[F/DA Thread]
Of course! That's so cute. I was kinda just using the setting to make a (bad) point lol. Might've gone overboard. (Maybe the parent birds are trying to find one of their kids, who has started flying and looking for a nest way too early for its own good.) Also for future reference you don't have to ask, just go for it xD. I do enough stuff without asking so lol.
[Yvonne's Thread]
Of course! I really like the setting and Yvonne's new design. Can't say I like how I'm holding up the thread but xD.
Since you brought it up, is there something you'd like Lianhuan #2 to do? I honestly didn't know what to do so I kinda had him roam a bit to gauge the place's boundaries. I didn't reckon there was much to be found tho. (And even if there was he's not the greatest seeker unless it's a person he's trying to look for, lol.)
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Yeah fr it'd be fun :') but also I know if I chatted too much I'd be waaay more distracted from my tasks than I am now xD. Still, it's being so much fun to be able to reply here almost in real time, and even then I'm glad to sometimes be able to post something and get a reply when I check in later or the next day. That's good enough for me :3.
I'm free rn and tomorrow at around this hour I should be free too. Just let me know if/when you're ready to go.
[Lancer]
This topic really took me by surprise xD but hey I'm glad to be able to talk about Lancer! I love her so much haha. She's the AU cahracter of mine that you know the most about in canon GGaD, isn't she?
Maybe surprisingly, she doesn't eat a lot of cookies and doesn't have a strong preference for any xD but she knows chocochip cookies are popular with people usually and so she tends to favor those when baking. I have a feeling that if she really had to choose a type, she might go for peanut butter or sugar cookies. But in this area she prioritizes what others will want to eat over what she likes, and she isn't picky at all in this area (except she doesn't like chocolate as much as one might think).
Lol I know nothing about woods so you have me here looking up stuff just to answer this xD so from this I can say that Lancer likes darker colored wood types, like walnut and ebony and rosewood. She likes them best when varnished.
Can't I at least tag Archer :') he looks so interesting to be (but also rn I don't know what I'd ask about him so XD)
[Rider]
Poor Rider getting bullied by his own creator in all universes (I think)
So he is handsome! Handsomely cute, maybe? :3? Also going slightly unrelated to this, do you think Berserker is handsome as in just good looking or would you say he's handsome as in hot
Bruh I never said my thoughts would be accurate xD which is why I mostly keep my headcanons to myself both for the AU and things in general. Besides, bits and larger pieces are missing from my impressions of your characters, added to the fact that you like to keep your stuff secret so there's just so much I can do, and I promise you, my headcanons/thoughts about this are a lot less than what you might have thought from what I said lol.
I'm confident they can get along, I'm just a little bit worried on how they'll fare :'). I think Nyoko is not that good of a Master when compared to my other Master characters, and I don't mean in personality/relationship, but anyways she'll try her best (or what she thinks is her best. She has Issues.).
I think I do! Iirc it's Yuezheng Xuqiao (sorry if I misspelled it) and in GGaD he's Lianhuan's older brother. I will say, I barely know anything about him, and even what I remember from seeing a writing of yours is hazy at best. I think you once posted a writing in which he somehow got his arm cut off while he was sleeping? And someone called for someone else (might have been Lianhuan calling for Rensa), and that's all I remember. Very vague, as you can see. :'). I don't even know what he's like or what he'd act like, but I can get a veeeeeeery general idea from your saying he's a hero in this AU.
Okay, I know I can't befriend all Servants by having my Masters offer them food that they'd like, but I just have such a strong urge to have most/half of them do exactly that when their threads arrive xD. Is it just me being too simpleminded or are my priorities in the wrong place? Who knows xD. Ooh also, on the favorite color, does he wear clothes in red or is it just a color he likes on things?
Loyalty OwO, it's a concept I think I really value a lot in characters and stories. I wonder what it exactly means in your definition though, because I see you've tagged it as a Chinese value. And I'm afraid I don't get the English word, just like you said lol.
Lol for the mounts I'm imagining like them both being in an open air market for some reason and
Nyoko: Rider, I'm siddenly low on mana, what did you do
Rider's mounts, having all materialized at the same time to raid the food stalls:
I'm glad to hear that Rider is good with animals :3 cause as you might imagine, Nyoko does like animals too, especially cats ;3
For Nyoko, I jazzed up her story a bit. So it's not exactly the same as what I told you like two years ago, though that's to be expected with constant improvement haha. Also I might have changed her last name, I say "might have" because I've got a placeholder for now but I'm not sure if I'll keep it or go back to the original.
I'll try to think of more questions but right now I'm just replying xD I'm happy you had frun writing the answers!
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References for Kiaane! I relayed these to Eliza and thought it'd be good (for me) to transfer them over to you if you needed them
Again, sorry. I only have digital pics atm, so there are only 2. Also sorry for your eyes if there's something incorrect/cursed xD
Yayyy :D cute Kiaane :D2021 sketch that's pretty accurate for their general vibe and facial features (though there are some minor changes)
I did this on Paint 3D xD
Unfinished chibi (circa 2022)
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I was about to start a reply to the Ryoo and Kiaane section so this is adorably oin time XD I can't get enough of the chibif gdhkgdjskgd I want to pinch their cute cheeks (out of curiosity, is it related to the Valentine's 2022 thread you made?)
I really like the first one too! The only thing I wonder now is, how long their hair actually is?