theologically, ash would considered a transfer god since he's from elsewhere. also what if ash's titan form, his first life, was the body of another god of their original pantheon. ash isn't that god, but what become of it after their god of endings(i've named it Silent Ceasing) was born. and ash's first, original name, was After End; as that was what they were born of and what he rules over. i think ash was originally worshipped as a taker, and prayed to as a means save the dead and to bless their graves. ash is not the end, but what happens after; and was worshipped in a trifecta with Silent Ceasing and their god of beginnings(Screaming Creator). together the three represented Life. and also they were among the last of the pantheon to die. at the end of ash's second life, as the conqueror, the other two were sealed into his black cocoon and consumed into their power. and then in the warrior life, ash's third, dust consumed all of their power and finally ended their half-life.

it'd be really funny if dust could become a big ol' wolf in ggad and just wander around being a beast. nightmarish deity of darkness and vengeance gets part-time job as a funny beast. obviously it'd still be a really bloody weird wolf, probably being dark as night with red glowing through its fur and a face forged of bronze. but dust wandering around as a wild doggy and happening upon people who'd normally try to fight it would be really funny

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fourth time dust has been misgendered this january

and it's always with he/him. there's never any flavour to it. if you're going to be wrong at least be interesting. use neopronouns i've never heard of. use she/her. do xe/xem. stop trying to put a beard on the darkness

don't worry too hard about it, i'm sure dust doesn't minds too much.

now, who's alois? i'm not familiar

holy hells that guy's wide

I think it's both understandable and weird that most of our gods have the standard moral compass. like it's mostly in the "hey murder's not cool, and also stop being mean you shouldn't do that" but also. would they really think that if they're thousands of years old? like, their moral compasses would shift as time goes on. black and white morality shifting into blue and orange morality. murder would shift from unforgivable crime, to a rudeness, to just a fact of life with no moral implications. being mean is just impolite.

and for most of them, would they have even had black and white morality to begin with?

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the mortal favorites are giving the gods morals

although in this metaphor, avit would be the miner carrying the cage and that just doesn't line up with how it happened so i'm going to ignore that

i feel like i was way too hasty with the "toruris tries to turn the entire universe into light so it can make everything perfect" arc in the rp i've put it in. i definitely could've gotten more out of its character with the almost-elder ngeštugbar bit and also the cult in an idealic remote mountainscape with the library of the history of all worlds touched by light

I can say for sure that that question is not one you should be asking an F/GO player such as myself

(specifically one who has at least finished the first Lostbelt),

I'm telling you

it wouldn't be the first time we've done it
(More accurately, something quite similar, not identical. But the thinking premise is quite the same in my view.)

i should probably mark down exacts at some point, but also yeah consuming dust's blood is basically taking some of its power into you. it burns like acid, against both matter and mind, but that's more of a functional connection since it burns because dust's blood is hungry and biting while acid is chemicals being angry because they were put together.

I do know for certain that a pint of dust's blood will make any host of its blood into a child of its darkness; unless dust does not favour them. a gallon will be lethal to almost all mortals, with exceptions applying to those with prominent magical or godly protection

honestly i love that i managed to reinterpret ash from just some random angry entropy god into a resigned and tired god of what happens after endings. the old ash was fun certainly, but i think he got overshadowed(ba dum tiss) when i introduced dust who was basically the same guy but more willing to kill and sometimes evil.

And I got to use that as a reason for why ash let dust kill him. dust would've never stood a chance against ash, the man's got a hells of a lot more going in terms of combat; but ash felt the weight of all the lives they had taken over millenia and more and made dust into his scapegoat by letting it devour his soul and sins with their soul. dust wasn't a grand enemy that could kill ash, dust was ash's way out. ash had grown tired of war, and of his constant fighting. so finally, the lord of rot let themself be slain to give way to his desire for rest.

also because of the other gods that were ensnared into ash's last soul, dust is metrically more powerful than ash. ash would still win in a fight, partially because dust can't see him without its mask, mostly because ash is just a better fighter with more options than dust.

the head of the pantheon, as well as the eldest and grandest, was Flowing Change; a vessel for the power of time. Upon their beginning, time began to flow(or at least according to the church doctrines), and endless centuries of brief moments later the second born became Growing Realms; whom willed first stars and worlds into existence(as far as the mortals under their rule thought anyway). Alongside those grand creations of The Twins, a third life began and formed into the Screaming Creator; whom breathed life into the barren lands of The Twins.

With that, most of their pantheon were born of the primal concepts of the mortal worlds. The last god of that era was Silent Ceasing, whom created Ends to inspire many to act with the time gifted to ther m by Screaming Creator and Flowing Change.

Millennia of their rule passed and the societies under their eyes grew beyond that first world, and then came After End. The firstborn god fell victim to their own power and the creation of Silent Ceasing, and it died in silence. The pantheon tried to hide the body of their grandest leader, but failed when it shook out of its burial mound as a monstrous titan called by the name of After End. The bestial existence of the mindless dead threatened all creation, and was worshipped against by the mortals and battled by the gods.

After thousands of millions of years, either After End or the creation of Silent Ceasing felled all but three of the worshipped gods. Silent Ceasing knew the trick to evade its creation, Screaming Creator was the grandest god left after Growing Realms attempted to martyr themself to (unsuccessfully)kill After End and could restore its own time to become eternal, and Crystalline Past(a god of memory) who befriended the titan and knew how to escape End.