GGaD » Unlimited Chatting, Planning, and Weird Things ~ (@GalaxE and Spec)

GalaxianExplosion · April 20, 2021 18:18:17

Lol me sending a post before it's done and being too lazy to edit it
I think Youri's skill kinda falls under Territory Creation? Idk, too lazy to search as well

Wanted to mention I'm probably leveling down Rensa's luck, since I noticed Saber's luck went down due to Kiritsugu's lifestyle and I reckon something similar can be done for Aereon and Berserker

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 20, 2021 18:35:15

Oh, okay. But they've got fame tho. I'm excited to see the legends in play actually. More than excited I'm curious. But I'm also excited. And curious. xD. And dw Marie's fine as she is lol.
So you decided to not genderbend Kiaane then? xD

According to what I looked up, Territory Creation is the creation of an area to give its caster an advantage. Apparently it can be used for collecting mana and similar things, y'know, to enhance the user's magic.
Youri's Territory Creation skill is already high because of his legend and stuff, so idk lol it would be interesting if he also had a skill to enhance his performance in forested areas. It might give him what's necessary to last more as long as he's in there, maybe?
Idk, lol, and it also would depend on where his Master lives because it's likely that Youri will want to create his "workshop" in a forest or similar place and it could involve moving temporarily.

Got it, sounds good.
Still have to decide more details about Aereon (she's not a Thaohal in this AU now so let's see about the last name lol), but she's not innocent now lol.

SpecterTheGreat · April 20, 2021 18:35:43

Ah and congrats for reaching lvl. 100 on F/GO! It's late but congratulations anyways xD

GalaxianExplosion · April 20, 2021 18:44:36

Do not remind me of that idea.
R.I.P., Sunny and Sollux probably live in at least a suburban area, but Sunny also has no objections about camping, so.......harder for Sollux to find him that way anyways lol

Aereon Lily is the only innocent Aereon :-P she was never innocent in this AU

Thanks lol, it means absolutely nothing since I still suck

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 20, 2021 19:33:14

Lol ok.
She gonna go looking for her brother then xD.

:D Aereon Lily xD

You'll get better lol dw

GalaxianExplosion · April 20, 2021 19:44:00

I mean, if Kiaane told me that she's[hypothetical] female, then I'd call her by the appropriate pronouns. It just seems weird to actually use she/her even if they don't care about gender in GGaD, since they look pretty masculine lol

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 20, 2021 19:47:56

Yeah, it's ok, lol.

GalaxianExplosion · April 20, 2021 20:28:39

Ofc lol

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 20, 2021 22:25:56

GalaxianExplosion · April 20, 2021 23:06:16

Rensa's stats:
Strength: A
Agility: B
Luck: C+ (or C, idk, depends on Aereon's character lol)
Endurance: EX
Mana: E+ (originally it was E but I actually forgot some things for this one so yee)

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 00:52:49

Coolio, owo
Lol idk I'm tempted to make Aereon worse than what I had in mind at first. We'll see how it comes out lol.

Tbh the stat things kinda make me want to make a chart just to see how the stats compare to each other.

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 00:55:03

Okay, if she's worse than his luck stat gets worse too. C- is the minimum though
Go for it lol, though I have a good idea how the comparisons look in general. :-P ~~psst, my characters are OP.~~

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 00:59:24

Yeah I don't know to what level I can take her but I think that it will probs not be as bad as I would like lol.
Lol just you wait, it's going to be disappointing.

Mmm I think I do too, but idk I just kinda want a chart xD for no reason xD

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 01:03:29

Well, on some bad days I get triggered by evil characters, so maybe her seeming moderately bad instead of super bad is a good thing, idk.

Lol I kinda know the feeling ~~like how I restructured an entire document instead of doing homework because I felt like it earlier today~~

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 01:08:23

Tbh I think that yep she's going to be more of a moderately evil character, but we still have to see how much. Idk if my brain will want to help me xD. Anyways, she's got an Evil alignment anyways lol.

Ig all I can say to that is "mood" xD.
Anyways I did the chart lol would you like to see

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 01:13:57

Sure thing. That was quick though I must say lol you do quick skimming ~~skimecter~~

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 01:16:08

I am Speed

Nah it's just that I had copied the stats beforehand lol so it was just copypasting work.

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 01:16:43

Wait actually give me a pair of minutes to try to make it look nice like a true chart lol

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 01:21:57

3 pairs of minutes have been granted but keep taking your time

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 01:22:58

Lol have mercy while I upload and stuff lol.
Anyways
Stats below may be subject to change.
Here's to hoping I didn't make a mistake copying lol

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 01:44:50

I'm not exactly sure how balanced the parameters are for F/SN Servants, but I'm actually kinda surprised. Some of these categories don't have HUGE disparity. Like, even for strength, it kinda looks like it makes sense, ig? Though I'm kinda surprised Germaine isn't stronger than Wiley, who is like, bony lol. What I'm saying is, feel free to elevate her to a C+ in Strength if you see it as viable
But otherwise it looks like strength goes up by physical age, which makes sense, I think. Rensa has the gender advantage too, I think, if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully not. I don't wanna sound sexist lol.
This is a high agility Servant group I see xD. I can't say I will try to change them for Wiley and Kiaane since I have reasons ~~if Wiley can't dodge right he's gonna die right away so~~ but I can possibly lower Rider's stat there. Don't change anything until I tell you for sure though xD I need to write down reasons and stuff for myself since I forget easily
Lol endurance is like "hey we average" and then Archer and Berserker be like "EX"
I was gonna say I can probably compensate for Rider's endurance too lolll poor Rider, getting demoted by me
Lmiao mana is a mess xDDD it's like "horrible and bad trying their best" and basically A and EX ranks LOL
Luck is horrible for this group huh

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 02:14:08

I've also been kinda surprised by that tbh. I wasn't sure about Lancer, like, she isn't the strongest, and she's not weak, but I kinda calculated that other Servants more oriented towards battle would have higher stats there so I set it at C. Then I saw the other stats and said "lol". I think C+ would be better. I was surprised Wiley had a C rank Strength stat tho xD. Good for him lol.
The thing about Lancer is that she's supposed to be a more "balanced" Servant, so like you can see her stats are average and in general she doesn't especially excel at anything (at least in general terms, idk).
Rensa be stronk xD.
There's a lot of A rank Agility, xD, A is for Agility apparently. I can rank down Youri's Agility to C tho. It probably would make him fit more into the Caster role. But then again I'm worried about the possibility of him being too weak , though I think he can protect himself anyways. Especially with what we discussed earlier today. Idk, I personally don't think you should rank down Rider's Agility, especially cause I already made you rank down other two stats.
Ig Caster should have a lower Endurance stat but I don't think I can rank it down by much, tho maybe I can attach a "-" there to make it more even.
The Mana stat is like the most uneven one, lol. But I like it that way cause the other stats are more or less even. Idk, and, well, it also looks fun lol.
The highest rank for Luck is C lol that's sad.

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 02:46:59

Like, you thought he'd be weaker? I referenced Fate's Servant parameters for that. I saw that Charles Henri-Sanson has a strength parameter of D, as did Astolfo, and I didn't consider Wiley to be that low. And then I saw Abigail Williams has a parameter of B and Amakusa Shirou Tokisada has a rank of C and was like "Okay Wiley into the C parameter you go"
The dude is mostly kinda stronk from carrying around all of his own stuff all the time. Lab equipment, machinery, stuff like that. He doesn't go to the gym and he has bad roots in terms of whatever genes build him up physically, but as a Servant, he's not physically weak lol. Besides, I think his confidence would take a hit if he were in the D range and both Youri and Galaxian are in the D range in terms of strength when he's at least almost an adult and they're just kids xDDD
Bruh, I'm the one who's supposed to rank down stats, not you lol
I feel like you shouldn't change Caster's parameters lol, his class already is at a disadvantage, not to mention the OP Magic Resistance that, like, all of my Servant characters have,,, loll
Eh, but by ranking down Rider's agility, it puts the Servants on more even ground.
Lol the highest luck stat was gonna be like B or smthn for Berserker but he's sharing a bit of karma for Aereon

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 10:00:27

Yeah, idk exactly, but I guess I kinda expected that lol. I think Abby's strength is not really hers though? But I see how you were thinking.
I think the thing is that I compared my characters to each other while crafting the stats, so like for example Assassin is definitely stronger than Lancer (but they both have A rank Agility lol) but Assassin isn't supposed to directly use that stat. Well, idk, lol, the thing is that I can also change my stats a bit.
Lol idk, Stronk Wiley tho :0.
And it's true xD Caster's stats do suffer a bit thanks to the fact that he can't be an adult lol. But most Casters have even lower parameters than he's got.
Poor Lancer, with C rank Magical Resistance lol she's not OP there.
I mean, if you want to rank his stats down, then go ahead, but I feel sorry for Rider .
Lol Aereon.

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 12:14:17

Abby didn't really matter in the choice, it was mostly a matter of comparing Wiley to an average swordsman (lol Amakusa Shirou Tokisada). Abby is a Foreigner, so Strength isn't that reliable. It was just a quick class comparison for me.
I didn't compare characters who were unrelated to one another for the most part, which meant the only major comparisons were between Rider and Berserker, and since I tried to make Rider weaker due to the not-most-suitable class, uh...yeah. Lol
It is now morning, which means my moral conscience regarding making my characters too OP has decreased dramatically. It's a night owl apparently
For Rider, I honestly was going by the fact that Rider isn't his most ideal class (which would be Saber)...but looking at Artoria's stats in all her classes,,, lol
I'll take suggestions for once and not rank down his agility lol. But his endurance might take a slight hit. Or maybe not? Depends on whether it gets lowered to B or if Bixbite would have originally lowered the stat (not intentionally ofc) to A, and then the factors I'm thinking of lowered it to B+. You choose how much she lowered it initially xD even without the context
Tbh somehow I feel like I'm doing well in terms of balancing characters ~~Wiley's not intended to be balanced~~ in terms of power levels since I'm putting my mind to it. Maybe it's because Artoria is so OP lol like bruh yeah King Arthur is famous but xDDD really?

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 14:48:05

I know, I was just pointing it out.
Lol I'm trying to think of something meaningful to reply with but my mind isn't helping me.
If I remember correctly, she ranked Endurance down to B+, so idk lol. I'm not very sure of what you're tying to say there? Because from the base stats you posted first, Endurance was at A+ and then it went down to B+ after considering the Master.
I also think you're doing well! I guess this is inevitable, but there is a power difference between our characters, so idk lol it's kinda weird to compare them by the same standard. Anyways, anyways. I'd love to say I think I'm doing well too but I constantly doubt my choices so what am I supposed to say xD

Artoria is OP because she's like the most popular character in the franchise or something lol

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 15:06:06

You missed the point. I was asking if there should be an alteration of the past decision and that said alteration would be up to you unless you can't make up your mind, because you're the owner of Bixbite and Rider is her Servant, which means you can decide whether her Servant has a more significant rank-down or not at this point in time.
Well, at least Archer and Lancer seem pretty similar. Archers are supposed to have OP Noble Phantasms, so that explains Archer's NP. Otherwise, excluding Assassin due to her class, I daresay it's pretty obvious even in GGaD why the statistics between our characters have differences--Rensa's the leader of a tribe at war and also a senior mage, and Xuqiao is a prodigy who's been fighting every day continuously for around a millennium. And Kiaane is also a mercenary and mage who's been training vigilantly, and add on their Saber class, they're made for offense. Meanwhile, Germaine and Youri aren't really made to fight, and add on their classes, uh huh.
I feel like F/GO's stats are quite exclusionary too. They're not representative of a character's abilities, really.

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 15:47:58

I think I still don't understand completely. You mean you're telling me that I can decide if Rider's stat should be changed more? If that's what you mean, then give me one or two hours and I'll get back to you on that.
Yep. I really don't think the stats of mine are bad, but there's a difference. Like, what you just said is what I was thinking. Role differences have an important part there. And it's okay because that's how it is lol.
Do stats in F/GO come into play, actually?

GalaxianExplosion · April 21, 2021 15:58:37

Less. If the initial change was lesser, the stat can stay where it is. If the initial change was what was predetermined, then the stat will decrease more.
I'm pretty sure the stats determine their rarity, like Artoria with her majority A and B stats is almost always a 5-star Servant, while Gao Changgong has two D stats, putting him in the 4-stars. This is based on personal observation, though.

-Galaxian-

SpecterTheGreat · April 21, 2021 16:08:46

Okay, so I think now I kinda understand what you're saying. I think in a previous post you said it, lol. If Nyoko only ranked the stat down to A, then you can lower it to B+. That's what you meant, right?
Maybe, idk.