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Hmm, idk. Why?
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Why I'm there? Uh, even if we don't talk a lot on chat, it still feels good to be there, y'know.
Also maybe something comes up.
But like, lol, if you have something to do, then go do it lol because it's more important.
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No, why you want to go on chat. I guess you kind of answered the question, though.
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Oh, yeah
Well idk most of the time I don't have a strong reason to call others to chat so
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Okay.
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Okay, so I spent some time ignoring a project studying the naming patterns of Fate works. Generally the naming refers to some aspect within the story instead of the Servants' pasts, like in the instance of Fate/Zero, Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Fate/Grand Order, and Fate/Apocrypha. Generally the naming uses at least one noun and might use an adjective too
I'm not very familiar with most series though
Anyways, the naming is hard because we don't know much about the plot, and also I do really badly with naming in general. I really like to use big words that I find beautiful, and it doesn't help that I really like the namings of Apocrypha and Hollow Ataraxia lol. All of these factors mean that I'm not sure about naming choices, but I mean, you haven't even put out any ideas for me to reference lol, so for now I'm on my own. I do want to get the naming over with, however. I don't like just calling it the "Fate AU."
I'm not really sure if you want to go by a single word or two words, so I had two ideas. I don't really like the two-worded variation, though, so here's the primary idea from me atm:
-Fate/Eucatastrophe (F/E)
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Lol your post got me so excited that I choked on toothpaste xD
Thankl you for taking the time to check the names and naming system lol, but remember to finish your project in time!
To be honest I love the name "Hollow Ataraxia" so I understand what you mean.
I'm not very well-versed in the use of English language xD so while I admire large words and like them too, I don't really use them lol (you probably have noticed). Anyways! That isn't what we're discussing atm!
Thanks again for figuring out the "pattern" in naming. I agree that it would be nice and cool to use a large word with meaning. I guess I'll have to investigate a bit to add suggestions because I don't know as many words xD but it's always good to learn new things.
Maybe there's some word that can be a (maybe subtle?) way of referencing the "GGaD" concept, idk, like, the idea that deities are somehow (if indirectly) a part of what's happening. Or reference the whole idea/purpose of the Grail War completely. I don't know, that's just something that came to my mind right now.
Of course I don't really know the plot either so I'm giving a general thing.
I like how your suggestion sounds! Looking at the meaning of the word, do you think that ties in to what the AU is? I kinda want to know why you thought of choosing that word.
If it's one word or two words, I guess it will depend on how it sounds and its meaning, because I don't think I like any of those general options more than the other.
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I kinda want to know why you were with toothpaste near a computer, but it's fine.
I considered referencing the deities, but I decided against it. In my opinion, the story centers more around the humans and the Heroic Spirits who are supporting them, so because of it, the name should reflect them more. Besides, considering from a "writer's" point of view--the deities' purpose through all Grail Wars would be the same. If this AU is named after the deities' purpose, then if another story regarding another Grail War is borne, how would it be named? It would be the churning of the same name, over and over again, just in different variations. Thus, the title should more reflect this story and the characters within this tale, not the greater plot that's driving the story, regardless of how much more easy that would be as an alternative.
That being said, "Eucatastrophe" is also somewhat general, but I guess I based it off from my own speculations and views. However, I'm not very inclined to share what drove me to consider the word as part of the AU's name at this time. It's another "writing" reason--if a title is fitting, it shouldn't really be explained. An author explaining their views on a title means nothing if the readers can't get the feel of the title from the story being told themselves. In a similar way, if a teacher has their understanding towards a topic but fails to convey that topic's understanding well enough towards his/her/their students so that said students gain understanding of the topic themselves, the teacher has failed in general. Pulling back to the concept of the story, even if this is really only a story between the two of us, I still consider you a reader. Me as well. I have my interpretations that currently lead me to think that Eucatastrophe might be a good option; but as an "author" of the AU and a "reader" of the story, I really don't think I need to explain it. If it's not an option that resonates to you, then it shouldn't be used.
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I was actually brushing my teeth. Now I'm wondering why I checked my laptop while doing that. Lol.
Yeah, while I was away, I was thinking about what I had suggested and I did think of the fact that this may not be the only story about a Grail War. Basically what you said, but you said it better.
Considering your points there, I think I have an idea but first I need to check if it actually sounds good in English. It probably doesn't, but I'll check later, and if I don't suggest anything then it's because I decided it isn't worthy of sharing.
I guess you don't need to say exactly why you decided on that word. Something that might be a bit hard here is making our view about the AU match and pick a title based on that, but let's see what we can do.
I really want to help somehow, y'know. I find it hard to express what I have in mind and put it into a word, so...so here's to hoping I can offer something worthy of being considered as a choice.
Let's keep your option in mind. Maybe we can find something better, but I don't think your word suggestion is bad in terms of meaning.
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What I said but without the excessive and unneeded wordiness that tries to make me seem intelligent lol
Tbh I'd rather hear it anyways lol, but you do what you want.
Well, I can say "Eucatastrophe" is based off my view of where the plot may go and the nature of the AU itself. That's basically it, really. I don't think views need to match per se, because that's, connecting with the writing reference before, impossible for readers.
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No it's just that I'm too simple-minded to explain stuff lol.
Really? I guess I can try once I remember lol because I forgot to save the idea somewhere and now I can't remember it hhdfjkhgjhhhh
I think that's an explanation that's good enough. Atm my mind is only thinking of French words so idk maybe I'll put more thought into this tomorrow afternoon or something xD.
Again, words betraying me lol. I didn't really mean "match" like literally match. Maybe more like, not conflict? Lol idk how to explain what was/is in my mind so nvm.
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Your entire post is "Can't remember, will talk more tomorrow, and never mind" so I don't know what to say other than good luck on your exam lol
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Okay so first off, ignoring how I'm -_- towards you not responding here for like 17 hours, this is a really cursed time to see this seeing as Rider and Saber also have the Riding skill
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Well, I'm very sorry. I didn't know what to reply to your post so I was waiting to see if something worthy of posting came to my mind.
Btw sorry x2 my idea vanished lol.
Saber on tricycle lol
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I dunno, for future reference, my suggestion would be a "Thank you," but I don't think that's something one should say
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Oh you mean to the good wishes? Yeah, I forgot to say thank you, that's my bad. But yes, thank you anyways!
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So...I can't say I've been dedicating all my thoughts to the naming of the AU, but from what I've tried, I really haven't had any ideas so far. I'm hoping that I'll soon get some inspiration, maybe at least something helpful, and Ig this is a post to say that I'm not forgetting about this issue.
As apology, I can sketch a Dion if you want lol.
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The best apology is to work on naming the AU lol, sketching for you is enjoyable that's like punishing me to eat chocolate
Thanks for the post tho. Lol
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Yeah, I'll definitely continue trying, so dw about that.
Lol you can't eat chocolate for me tho ;)
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I honestly don't know how you're seeming worse than me in terms of naming lol since at least I can generate ideas atm, and it's not like I think about the AU constantly lol these days it's inspiration randomly appearing
But hey, who knows. Maybe the one idea you'll come up with hypothetically is really good, while it's pretty clear that I'm stretching it for mine.
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Lol the issue is that I'm not generating ideas, and I'm not thinking about the AU all day either. You know, my inspiration comes randomly and sometimes it doesn't even come.
"Hypothetically" is the key word there lol.
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Idk lol, when I say "inspiration" I mean the good ideas. I find that even without inspiration, it's crucial to at least try. In writing, I'm kinda a hypocrite, but I do okay in other areas when it comes to lacking inspiration. Though, usually I don't need to force out a title. It just annoys me now, as I've designated it a priority of sorts.
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Of course I have to try. I haven't tried hard enough for this yet though, and by now I know that just waiting around for a lucky instant revelation doesn't work well most of the time.
I may be bad with words, but that doesn't (shouldn't) incapacitate me from trying with a title. I'm having it as a priority too lol like idk I'd like to get it over with but of course that can't be done just like that y'know
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Well, if the priority is being too stressful, maybe it'd help if you tried to come up with a name for Sollux's and Sunny's dad first? I'm not sure how similar the tasks are, but maybe it's a good exercise. idk.
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Oh lol I didn't get to share his name, would you like to hear it? I did decide on that last week hehehe.
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Sunny wants to know what his dad's name was, yes.
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Ok sorry for the delay in reply, but the name I chose is Paymon.
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Another ship that can't have a ship name no matter how hard shippers try, I see xD
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I didn't even think about that xD
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Lol I'm sorry but I thought "Xemon" but instead half of my mind goes "Bruh too similar to Xenon" and then the other part goes ":3 Xemom"
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